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May 19 2025 09:55am
Nobody can afford torch n anni unless late season. And they're hard to get. So ... i would not agree it is the best build. Making due with less is always better, because then more people can play it. And with nova sorc, heh, that's hard. I use insight n prayer merc = Big mana ... Less damage yes, but still does okay damage. I like to switch with high level static field if many monsters are closing in, brings their hp down fast. Then 2-4 novas does them in. It's fun.

But of course torch n anni is nice to have. They're just hard to get. Especially in hardcore which is what i play. I haven't actually hunted d clone or torches in hardcore ... i think i've stumbled on d clone maybe once, a long time ago, and did get him with my bowa xD Was fun. But haven't seen him in many many seasons now. Sad. That was great fun back in the day, to hunt him actively watching the server lists.

Hmm ..... maybe i'll try hunting torches this season ...... it's almost impossible on hardcore, lilith i know and read is a b1tch to kill...... and i don't like the aspect of cheesing and coockie cutter builds. Maybe a poison javazon, lol. Now that would be hilarious. But grinding for death's web and such ...... jeez that's a b1tch.... so then one is stuck with like 30 000 poison damage perhaps, and that would take an insane amount of time to kill them.... i don't think that's viable. One needs hundreds of thousands of poison damage. It's hard to do.


Nova isn’t an early ladder build or a budget build.

Blizz sorc is what you do until you can afford / farm an infinity.


Regardless, the 105 FCR build using v magi is the best.

Softcore or hardcore, the game is exactly the same.


If you are dying in pvm in a game where pvm hasn’t had any meaningful changes in 23 ish years and has only had increased gear creep and availability over that time period, the issue is you.
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for farming keys u dont need much...
also enough for hell meph/andy

lore
stealth
spirit
ancients pledge
caster craft belt
shop'd resi gloves/boots
gambl'd fcr rings/amu

(bloodcraft armor/helm; insight merc)

all this u can farm easy in nightmare..

with some luck farming 85er aerias u will find early an elite base for insight and monarch to make spiritshield and getting 105fcr otherwise u r still good with 63fcr


Nah nah nah ... with that kind of gear u get 900 hit points, 300 mana max .. -30 all resist, -maybe- 0% all resist.. fuggetaboudid... still very hard to survive.

But maybe possible. But very hard work. And will be off-putting to new player base.


Nova ain’t an early ladder build or a budget build.

Blizz sorc is what you do until you can afford / farm an infinity.


Regardless, the 105 FCR build using v magi is the best.

Softcore or hardcore, the game is exactly the same.


If you are dying in pvm in a game where pvm hasn’t had any meaningful changes in 23 ish years and has only had increased gear creep and availability over that time period, the issue is you.


Agree on first.

I tend to like orb better, easyer to control, but okay, blizz does good damage. Just hits too random for me. I also like hydra, easy to control, at least in hc.

Sc n hc is a completely different game... not the same...

I disagree with the last sentence. When is the last time you died? And played without a decked out char with paid gear? Nah .. i think you die too ... the human mind is not errorless.. we get tired, we rush too fast, we don't assume or assimilate the required tendoncies of details that emerge at times.... then you know the truth. It's not that simple. It's been a long time since i died in hc but i am not ashamed to admit i did die quite a few times, of course we must make mistakes to learn. That's how we learn. Because if we want to play as efficient as possible and not waste too much time, we must know the boundaries of gaming with maximum efficency rating vs the lowest possible risk of dying... and this you only get from experience in hardcore, not softcore.... that last pixel of the enemy death frost nova is what u must watch out for... i didn't, and died. Crazy amount of details to process in the old brain box. But it's been a long time now though. One learns. Everyone learns. But someone pays... someone pay to get decked out lvl 85 char... that's not learning, that's cheating. I don't cheat. And that's that.
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May 19 2025 10:21am
Nah nah nah ... with that kind of gear u get 900 hit points, 300 mana max .. -30 all resist, -maybe- 0% all resist.. fuggetaboudid... still very hard to survive.

But maybe possible. But very hard work. And will be off-putting to new player base.




Agree on first.

I tend to like orb better, easyer to control, but okay, blizz does good damage. Just hits too random for me. I also like hydra, easy to control, at least in hc.

Sc n hc is a completely different game... not the same...

I disagree with the last sentence. When is the last time you died? And played without a decked out char with paid gear? Nah .. i think you die too ... the human mind is not errorless.. we get tired, we rush too fast, we don't assume or assimilate the required tendoncies of details that emerge at times.... then you know the truth. It's not that simple. It's been a long time since i died in hc but i am not ashamed to admit i did die quite a few times, of course we must make mistakes to learn. That's how we learn. Because if we want to play as efficient as possible and not waste too much time, we must know the boundaries of gaming with maximum efficency rating vs the lowest possible risk of dying... and this you only get from experience in hardcore, not softcore.... that last pixel of the enemy death frost nova is what u must watch out for... i didn't, and died. Crazy amount of details to process in the old brain box. But it's been a long time now though. One learns. Everyone learns. But someone pays... someone pay to get decked out lvl 85 char... that's not learning, that's cheating. I don't cheat. And that's that.


I’ve never died in pvm to a monster when I’ve had a fully built char. Hc and sc is the same when you reach a fully built char

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I’ve never died in pvm to a monster when I’ve had a fully built char. Hc and sc is the same when you reach a fully built char


Decked out, yes. Semi-average gear, not so much.
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May 19 2025 10:41am
Decked out, yes. Semi-average gear, not so much.


And a decked out nova sorc costs about $5
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And a decked out nova sorc costs about $5


Heh heh, yeah ... it sounds good, doesn't it.... same as with alcohol and other demons .... it only starts with the one.. i've been without alcie for 9 months now and decided to do that for life... i cannot even take one little sip of a drink. And it should be the same with gaming and buying gear. One should not even spend 1 cent on it. Personally i think the idea of forum currency is a good idea. But it's like, issue it for free. Then everyone sticks to a fixed price list, with prices ranging from cheap to expensive rating on necessity and usefulness of gear. Maybe with some re-issuing of more currency every ladder start, or something like that. The intricacy of the system should be discussed with importance. But this way, it becomes fair. Nobody can shoot in 50$ and corner the market. And it becomes less tempting for people driven by the demon to set up 50 bots and corner the market... nah, i prefer games to be clean. As i do with life. Alcohol is fun. But everything is fun until the grim reaper tells you you're next on his list. Then you have two choices. Same as with d2 .. to play fair, or play unfair. Keep playing unfair, and you get dissolvement, as your corpse dissolve underground, as d2 has, you have so many different versions and platforms, the player base is scattered. Back in the day, it was life. Now it is death. Yet, i chose life. In relative to alcohol though. But i try to choose life in d2 too, lol xD Dying in hc is not fun. Which leads me to another story:

I was playing a bowa, semi-decked gear, no faith though ..... just playing in act 1 hell, doing tristrun. I went toe to toe with griswold.. he didn't have any magic enchanted damage except fire, so i decided to just stand and shoot and deal damage. I figured, i can tank 1 single punch. I had ~1000 hit points and ~20% all res. I don't remembeer if i was cursed, i guess i must have been, but i don't think so, because i would never tank with amp proc'd. Yet, he 1 punch ko'd me xD I was shocked. It was a shocking experience. So ... never try to tank griswold, lol. Must have been that 5% monster crit that proc'd.. extra strong, fire damage.. that's a 1000 damage right there.
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i've been without alcie for 9 months now and decided to do that for life


well done mr taurean
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well done mr taurean


Why thank you good sir. D2 will be my drug now lol. The thrill of quest bugging bosses will never fade i think. New season in 1 month. And woodworking hobbies. Building my own shelves and stuff. It's cool.
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Why thank you good sir. D2 will be my drug now lol. The thrill of quest bugging bosses will never fade i think. New season in 1 month. And woodworking hobbies. Building my own shelves and stuff. It's cool.


good for you. keep it up
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Nah nah nah ... with that kind of gear u get 900 hit points, 300 mana max .. -30 all resist, -maybe- 0% all resist.. fuggetaboudid... still very hard to survive.

But maybe possible. But very hard work. And will be off-putting to new player base.



with that gear u can run with every class through hell...
ok, on paly u have early 2x spirit, on druid u may have lore in a pelt, with amazon u need a javelin, on barb u want 2x spirit swords, with necro maybe u have a ryme shrunken head, etc.
sometimes u find a Lum in nightmare to make smoke or any good unique that helps a lot..
but basically it's always the same

in this 25-year-old game, everything is calculated and finished, there is nothing new to learn
read up and listen to us, then you won't have any problems

This post was edited by Zunka on May 19 2025 11:06am
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