i think that the 4d move is for him to do it, expecting a legal challenge, which big pharma will do and scotus will likely overturn.

but the key is that if scotus overturns it because they say the executive branch doesnt have that power, then its incumbent on the legislature to codify it. and if they dont the legislature then has to be villains AND disagreeing with MAGA/MAHA. so it forces their hand.

really a chain reaction setting off legal battles and congress to do what he wants because they wont take a direct ask from him as enough.

But Republicans don't have the necessary, filibuster-proof majority in Congress, and Democrats have zero incentive to bail them out. This is a slam dunk opportunity for Democrats to argue ahead of the midterms that Trump is incompetent and impotent, unable to deliver on his promises, and that congressional Republicans are still bought off by Big Pharma. Maybe this is a smart move in a long-term strategic sense to push forward the political realignment, with the GOP becoming a populist party of the working-class and Democrats fully becoming the party of professionals and technocrats, but in the short run, this strategy sets his party up for an assbeating.

disagree, democrats would not be able to en masse shoot down a law that will cap drug prices and provide direct relief to everyone. there would be some hard liners, but my god the optics of that would haunt most sitting politicians for ages. just imagine you get primaried and someone plays a sad music commercial about some kid who died because of the cost of medicine the parents couldnt afford. some sad mom crying about having to take her family to a shelter because of the cancer meds she couldnt afford. any politician worth half their salt can see that a mile off. its not at all worth it imo, even with midterms in context.

I think we are going to really see the power of the market and it's lobbyists. This is going to split the room. You are going to see the left & right totally eat itself on this one.

You also have people like Bernie that would 100% split and cause even more damage. The optics are not good at all as you say. We have some of the highest drug prices in the world, for no real good reason other than we have more money than others. Not a real good reason when half of the US is living paycheck to paycheck and getting sick basically completely derails your finances for years.

That 400million dollar Qatar plane gonna go boom with donnie on it one of these days
/E And nothing of value will be lost. Except the plane of course

This post was edited by Bruv on May 12 2025 03:50pm

I assume a lot of Republicans would be firmly against it, either due to being paid off by big pharma, or out of free market principle. So the number of nay votes Democrats would need to filibuster this bill would imho be far lower than 41, I'd say they'd need around 20. Big business and/or libertarian Republicans will provide the rest. Democrats can easily get to this number with types like Sinema who are doing big pharma's bidding, or Schumer types who are business friendly and entrenched and/or old enough to resist the pressure.

And they would of course not frame their nay as a plain "fuck 'dem sick people". They would make additional demands and frame their nay as Trump's bill not going far enough. Aaaand all of this hinges on the implicit assumption that Trump and his team truly introduce a clean bill which doesn't contain any pork or poison pills. If it does, Dems have their cover to vote it down and deny the GOP a generational political victory.





Maybe I'm overly cynical and pessimistic, but I think everyone who gets excited by this underestimates just how much resistance such a bill will be faced with. We're talking about a bill which would, over the years, shift trillions of dollars away from one of the most powerful and politically influential industries. They will move heaven and earth to stop this bill by any means necessary.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 12 2025 09:13pm

lol total badazz

who were those people? that said trumps records belonged in national archives or something like that? and then a bunch of armed insurrectionists swarmed his golf course
Congressional Librarians REFUSED to Give Up Power!

The audio of Biden in his interview with special counsel Robert Hur, that led to Biden not being charged for holding classified documents on the basis that he was an "“Elderly Man with a Poor Memory”, has now been released. This long after the election:

Biden starts talking at 20 seconds.

This is the audio that was suppressed for this long, and it ain't good