Humans are not animals.
Only if a human does not use their intellect are they an animal.

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There is a Spiritual war on-going right now.
Even by saying it's not a thing, you are picking a side and partaking.

This post was edited by Mondain on May 15 2025 11:37am

Yes, it's completely nonsensical

I honestly cannot fathom how people can not understand this, and contradict themselves within the same paragraph, it's complete nonsense.

you literally said there is no self and it is an illusion in your previous post, you are contradicting yourself now man

This post was edited by majorblood on May 15 2025 12:31pm

There's nothing random about free will... which is why it's free will. Nothing random about sending a neural impulse to move your arm, for example.

If you actually understood quantum mechanics, you'd understand that the randomness is on the order of h-bar/2, very small. As the particle number of a system increases, it very quickly approaches classical behaviour. Your theory is to connect this randomness to free will? What mathematical model have you proposed?

i've been pressing him to (using a purely naturalistic worldview since he rejects God) explain how free will can exist


in his worldview fundamentally everything is just physics, quantum mechanics, etc. so everything is ultimately determined or random (at some level in probabilistic quantum mechanics)

if his brain is an outcome of this physics there is no room for free will, an honest naturalist must be deterministic (or we can accept his random or indeterministic worldview that things happen, at least on the quantum mechanic level, due to probabilistic causation -- it still isn't free will).

there is no free will without God



slavery was never presented as morally good in the bible, the text is largely descriptive of existing social realities rather than prescriptive commands that say ‘you shall have slaves.’

in fact, people do a lot of bad shit in the bible and it's not prescriptive saying their behavior is good.

This post was edited by majorblood on May 15 2025 12:52pm

"there is no truth"

is a truth statement, it is a contradiction to say "there is no truth"

therefore there must be truth.

even basic linguistics demands truth and reason, which demands justification or grounding in something that transcends material

This post was edited by majorblood on May 15 2025 12:49pm

so sarod says its just words and nothing can really be known? but its sarod using words............ ?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 15 2025 02:59pm

because saurod says so.............
if your going to go after scripture its only proper to post version(translation) chapter and verse then your argument. rather than because saurod says so in his own godhood......





because saurod godhood says so.......
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never been anyone in the history of mankind more impressed with themselves than 'atheists. the funny thing is they are a product of accidental random processes but in their case this random process has produced the greatest verson of mankind. .................... thats what the random accidential chemical process in their brain is telling them......

one would think it would be the 'atheist that would be the most reserved ? literally living in a existence that if there claims are true they cant possibly ever know anything

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 15 2025 03:30pm