I always saw myself as pro Israel but this can't be a 'limitless' partnership. For many decades Israel basically received carte blanche support from the US, militarily, diplomatically and with our pocket book.
The first two are likely to continue, the third one is at odds with the America first vision. We can't throw around billions like we used to and we won't be tricked into another retarded forever war with Iran that would cost trillions no matter how much Israel wants it to happen. They are a critical ally and will always be so, but the cuck level support has to end. We will stomp out the neocons out of this party.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/12/netanyahu-must-now-work-for-support-of-us-as-trump-tires-of-israel-war-in-gaza

Seriously why? Name a single positive thing Israel has done for anywhere in the region. They've only brought destruction, stole land, and drained resources. They've always been hellbent war mongers.

Have you ever thought of what the end state would be in either outcome?

The Israeli end state seems better IMO than the alternative. The current state obviously worse than those two fictional single state ends.

The Israelis are winning because they cultivate a better culture and have established highly coupled international relationships

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on May 14 2025 06:40am

We already had international relationships with many countries in that region. If anything our ties to Israel has soured our relations with other Middle Eastern and Arab countries. The Israelis winning didn't cultivate a better culture at all, all the Israelis did was "steal" the culture of the land. They claim food like falafels and hummus are theirs, two hilarious examples.

Israel only inflamed situations forever. If Israel had failed in the beginning, or the Zionist project never began in the first place the world would be a better place. Not just for the Arabs, but for the Jewish people too, whether it be in Palestine or in the diaspora.

There would be no 9/11, there would be no desert storm, there would be no "war on terror" because all of these are a direct or partial result of Israeli aggravation.

On top of all this radical Islamist groups would be far less prevalent, because as the American neo-cons and Israelis have stated the goal has always been to prop up far-right Islamist rebels whilst the Arabs were actively working toward a secular, socialist coalition. The reason they do this is because it's easier for Israel and America to make enemies out of Islamic extremists than it is the alternative. Netanyahu has been recorded talking about this strategy in use when referring to the west and Israel.

Just imagine being a Jewish person and you are told the only "safe place" for you is a heavily militarized, completely isolated nation that has pissed off all its neighbors.

In Israel you are brainwashed more so than Russia China or the US and you are required to enlist in the army.. I simply cannot understand how anyone could fall for this lie. Israel never wanted peace, it will never want peace, its actions and rhetoric are clear. From the very beginning the Zionists intended to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian people. This is unforgivable. Just as unforgivable as what the Nazis did to the Jews and Poland. The difference is we are in a timeline to stop Israel from doing it further, before it's too late. Because Israel does intend to kill every single Palestinian, whether it be through bombs or starvation. On top of this they've destroyed NEARLY EVERY single building, historical landmark, church and mosque.. It's heartbreaking.

This post was edited by uskittles on May 14 2025 08:52am

That secular socialist coalition is Ba'athism, which is Arab Nazism (national socialism).

If you think that's a good thing, you must also logically believe White Nazism is also a good thing

Make Arabs Great Again !!!

They were all very successful and lifted their nations out of poverty - so the old regime and Israel destroyed them