Quote (Saurod @ May 8 2025 11:59pm)

If everyone is special then no one is. Its the same thing. Yes, self-centered. Everyone who thinks god cared for them more than for millions of others is self-centered. Absolutely. The world is not revolving around you, although you think it is.

I dont know what atheists claim and I dont care. I do not claim anything you said people claim.
Just because we dont know what happened and how anything happened, doesnt mean a being made it. We dont have a full explanation. Not atheists, not religious people, not anyone else.

Even if there was a creator, which I cant disprove nor try to, I am fairly certain it would differ greatly from the religious beings people worship. The story arcs told in books like the christian bible are as unrealistic as possible.

Quote (TiStuff @ May 9 2025 12:04pm)

a parents can have a many children and everyone of them special in their eyes. matters not what you think about it.
scripture says God loves everyone and though not one is good he has provided a path back. purely out of love

'atheists used to be loud about monkey to man evolution. now they only loud about their 'disbelief.
not only 'atheists lacking a full explanation they lack any explanation whatsoever. only sustained by faith

its a story so far out there no man could ever event it

Quote (CPK001 @ May 9 2025 11:37am)

When you read the Book of Genesis on the account of Creation, God sees all that he made and it was very good. That all changed in Genesis 3.

Quote (Saurod @ May 9 2025 12:42am)

I personally have no such believe. I rather do NOT believe the absolutely ridiculous stories people and books try to tell.

An omnipotent being that is contradicted in every 2nd sentence you hear about it, is so far from being believable as anything could ever be.

The whole narrative of unconditioned worshipping, while simultanously belitteling us, his slaves, is dated - but not the sceptisicm towards it. It is absolutely ridiculous to hold on to these completely unrealistic beliefs.

The whole Sinner, heaven, Hell thing screams dated like nothing else. Those are all obvious control mechanisms from 2000 years ago and people still dont question it because the roots of their indoctrination goes way too deep.

The moment people realize that a creator would be responsable for good AND evil in every shape or form, is the moment religion has a chance to evolve. As long as this doesnt happen and believers keep locking their minds up, this will always stand still and and the fear of imaginary consequences will suffocate every rational thought.

Quote (IceMage @ May 9 2025 03:01pm)

I think you should revisit those arguments. God exists, there's not really a good argument against that fact.

Quote (Saurod @ May 9 2025 06:09am)

Against that FACT? Okay buddy, was nice talking to you.

Quote (El1te @ May 9 2025 03:40pm)

It's fact. If you're too dim witted to understand or recognize it, that's a skill issue

Quote (Saurod @ May 9 2025 03:18am)

What does evolution have to do with god? Why bring it up?

Quote (TiStuff @ May 9 2025 03:53pm)

'evolution (macro) was/is the alternate explanation to creation. it hasnt held up though. the progress of science has pretty much destroyed the idea.

Quote (Saurod @ May 9 2025 06:55am)

You dont think all christians believe in the biblical creation, do you? :rofl: