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May 8 2025 03:21pm
Oh sure, all the good things happen thanks to god, but all the bad things happen because of people, right?

I mean god gave them free will, but other than that the boss has nothing to do with it despite creating EVERYTHING.

Its never him, cant be. Cant be the one who made everything and knew everything before it happened. People are sinners, not god of course. He cant even make a false step. He is just SO freakin perfect.... :rofl:


being delivered from drinking probably the craziest experience of my life. i dont know why all the bad things happen i just know they do. part of accepting the God deal is its offer of a path away from all thats bad.
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God is flawed? wouldnt you have to make a claim to perfection to make such a claim?
the atheist/antitheist dilemma? have to claim godhood to claim "no G(g)od(s)" or claiming "no G(g)od(s)" is a godhood claim
is the system rigged against Gods greatest deniers?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 8 2025 03:31pm
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being delivered from drinking probably the craziest experience of my life. i dont know why all the bad things happen i just know they do. part of accepting the God deal is its offer of a path away from all thats bad.
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God is flawed? wouldnt you have to make a claim to perfection to make such a claim?
the atheist/antitheist dilemma? have to claim godhood to claim "no G(g)od(s)" or claiming "no G(g)od(s)" is a godhood claim
is the system rigged against Gods greatest deniers?


what life is like as david in a phoney goliath world 55:



hive mind not allowed to see the truth.

🤘 📱 :evil: and they worshipped the talking image of the beast day and night.
alive by emf electrolysis, chemtrail breath for a phoney world.


thus said the lord of hosts the sun of amen rah.
in righteousness do i wage war and conquer the treasonous united states military thats too busy spending the treasury money on trafficking children in stadiums.

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what life is like as david in a phoney goliath world 55:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hIYeO5gUsY

hive mind not allowed to see the truth.

🤘 📱 :evil: and they worshipped the talking image of the beast day and night.
alive by emf electrolysis, chemtrail breath for a phoney world.


thus said the lord of hosts the sun of amen rah.
in righteousness do i wage war and conquer the treasonous united states military thats too busy spending the treasury money on trafficking children in stadiums.


I pity atheists
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May 8 2025 07:24pm
I pity atheists


gonna need faith when you get "buzzed" by "chop tuahs" for telling the truth @ jsp:

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/satans-chariot-how-the-russian-mi-24-hind-helicopter-terrorized-afghanistan

basketball is political when a series is clearly not about the sport, but rather the politics of who is allowing covert violence:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=106277095&f=119&p=674064567#p674064567

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May 8 2025 10:16pm
He doesnt make any sense no matter what. Thats a great summary.


I think the arguments for God are entirely convincing. It takes some additional work to get to the Christian God, but I do believe agnosticism/atheism is kind of a dated belief system. People who still hold those views probably haven't read enough about the subject.
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May 8 2025 10:42pm
I think the arguments for God are entirely convincing. It takes some additional work to get to the Christian God, but I do believe agnosticism/atheism is kind of a dated belief system. People who still hold those views probably haven't read enough about the subject.


I personally have no such believe. I rather do NOT believe the absolutely ridiculous stories people and books try to tell.

An omnipotent being that is contradicted in every 2nd sentence you hear about it, is so far from being believable as anything could ever be.

The whole narrative of unconditioned worshipping, while simultanously belitteling us, his slaves, is dated - but not the sceptisicm towards it. It is absolutely ridiculous to hold on to these completely unrealistic beliefs.

The whole Sinner, heaven, Hell thing screams dated like nothing else. Those are all obvious control mechanisms from 2000 years ago and people still dont question it because the roots of their indoctrination goes way too deep.

The moment people realize that a creator would be responsable for good AND evil in every shape or form, is the moment religion has a chance to evolve. As long as this doesnt happen and believers keep locking their minds up, this will always stand still and and the fear of imaginary consequences will suffocate every rational thought.
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being delivered from drinking probably the craziest experience of my life. i dont know why all the bad things happen i just know they do. part of accepting the God deal is its offer of a path away from all thats bad.
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God is flawed? wouldnt you have to make a claim to perfection to make such a claim?
the atheist/antitheist dilemma? have to claim godhood to claim "no G(g)od(s)" or claiming "no G(g)od(s)" is a godhood claim
is the system rigged against Gods greatest deniers?


Isnt it crazy how special you think you are? Why would a god "deliver you from drinking" while innocent children die by cancer every single day? While people are raped and murdered every single day? Where is their path from all away thats bad? What is it that makes you benefit from gods mercy while millions of good people dont? Isnt that a bit self centered?
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May 8 2025 11:22pm
Isnt it crazy how special you think you are? Why would a god "deliver you from drinking" while innocent children die by cancer every single day? While people are raped and murdered every single day? Where is their path from all away thats bad? What is it that makes you benefit from gods mercy while millions of good people dont? Isnt that a bit self centered?


scripture says im special. it even says your special.
children dying, maybe they are escaping this place?
see? what you have there dying is bad but also living is bad?
you noticed the horror of this place? rape and murder. have you ever done anything to alleviate suffering? anything other than just noticing it?
"...millions of good people dont?" are they good? who are you to say they are good? your godhood?
self-centered? repentance is being self-centered?
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is the system rigged against Gods greatest deniers?
lets look at creation. one claim is a "maximally great being" made the place. while atheist/antitheist claim its all a accident just random luck.
in other words the 'atheist claim nothing made the place. the claims are opposite of each other? a great intellect did it vrs dumb luck (no mind).
science has progressed though. we can know now that abiogenesis is absurd and 'evolution (macro) takes a record amount of stubborn faith.
irony of it all though? is the "new explanation of life/living systems is panspermia or, the aliens did it. which is a claim of a creator lol :)
...........science has been extraordinarily cruel to the 'atheist

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May 9 2025 12:59am
scripture says im special. it even says your special.
children dying, maybe they are escaping this place?
see? what you have there dying is bad but also living is bad?
you noticed the horror of this place? rape and murder. have you ever done anything to alleviate suffering? anything other than just noticing it?
"...millions of good people dont?" are they good? who are you to say they are good? your godhood?
self-centered? repentance is being self-centered?
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is the system rigged against Gods greatest deniers?
lets look at creation. one claim is a "maximally great being" made the place. while atheist/antitheist claim its all a accident just random luck.
in other words the 'atheist claim nothing made the place. the claims are opposite of each other? a great intellect did it vrs dumb luck (no mind).
science has progressed though. we can know now that abiogenesis is absurd and 'evolution (macro) takes a record amount of stubborn faith.
irony of it all though? is the "new explanation of life/living systems is panspermia or, the aliens did it. which is a claim of a creator lol :)
...........science has been extraordinarily cruel to the 'atheist


If everyone is special then no one is. Its the same thing. Yes, self-centered. Everyone who thinks god cared for them more than for millions of others is self-centered. Absolutely. The world is not revolving around you, although you think it is.

I dont know what atheists claim and I dont care. I do not claim anything you said people claim.
Just because we dont know what happened and how anything happened, doesnt mean a being made it. We dont have a full explanation. Not atheists, not religious people, not anyone else.

Even if there was a creator, which I cant disprove nor try to, I am fairly certain it would differ greatly from the religious beings people worship. The story arcs told in books like the christian bible are as unrealistic as possible.

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If god's creation isnt perfect, he isnt perfect.


When you read the Book of Genesis on the account of Creation, God sees all that he made and it was very good. That all changed in Genesis 3.
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