Quote (babun1024 @ 7 May 2025 20:48)

You are correct, except for the left wing being as bad as well and being powered by billionaires behind the steering wheel. As you know billionaires aren't our friends neither the right nor the left kind. The 80% in-between needs to rise up and curb both extremes to where they belong.
Their positions are presented as without alternatives like for example universal healthcare + mass immigration or less immigration + police state. You can have regulated immigration while not being a police state but that option isn't presented. You can guess why :lol:
Again, billionaires aren't our friends.

Quote (TeenyUncle8 @ May 7 2025 07:33am)

I’m not rationalizing anything. There is undeniably some biased in many media forms. But it’s very asymmetric. This isn’t a both sides are equivalent thing. We no longer get the same general stories with varying degrees of partisan spin. We’re literally not even seeing the same general stories.

I frequently check Fox News just to see what information is being presented. One of the more innocuous things that still sticks in my mind was when the island of Maui was seeing huge fires. I think it should have just been viewed as news worthy. No spin, just news worthy. And understandably it was the lead story nearly everywhere…. But not Fox. The entire day it was buried and you had to scroll and scroll and scroll to find it. I’m not sure if it was because Hawaii is overwhelmingly democratic or Fox was scared about climate change narratives. But they buried the lead. The lead story on Fox that entire day… random transgender man nobody has ever heard of on the street makes a provocative statement.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 7 2025 07:16am)

there's no inherent logic behind the idea that because what stories are presented are different that this means bias is asymmetric. its possible, and likely true, that despite covering different stories altogether that bias is fairly symmetrical for a simple reason. biased reporting sells better, and both sides want to maximize money. political commentary has sold better than political education for a long time, sadly.

Quote (TeenyUncle8 @ May 7 2025 08:50am)

Burying stories of importance because they may upset your viewer base or puncture the carefully crafted version of the world you’re trying to sell is bias. There is really no way around it.

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 May 2025 14:11)

and the public has been torpedoing the dinosaur media outlets that are hostile to the mainstream beliefs of society.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 7 2025 09:57am)

Sure, but that doesnt address what i said. both sides of the media do this. if an illegal immigrant kills a woman while she's jogging Fox will do 3 solid days on it, and MSNBC wont do even one segment on it. many such cases.

what im saying it both sides are relatively equal in their bias, and both sides are relatively equal about their selective coverage. its more noticeable for fox because they have ALL of the right winged coverage, whereas left wing coverage is split between several networks.

overall my point wasn't that selective coverage doesnt lead to bias, i think it does, even if its just its own category of bias instead of something like spin bias. you seemed to state that there is asymmetric bias AND coverage selection, and that's simply false.

Quote (TeenyUncle8 @ May 7 2025 12:43pm)

Both sides do it. But not remotely to the same extent. So no, they’re really not the same.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 7 2025 12:02pm)

You likely think this because you're left leaning, and therefore think the stories they're not covering are warranted. otherwise i dont know how you could think this in a post hunter biden era world.

Quote (TeenyUncle8 @ May 7 2025 01:29pm)

We all have biases. But it becomes pretty apparent if you actively look at the Information and the form of that information on various sites/sources/outlets. And no, they are not remotely the same.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 7 2025 12:35pm)

you referenced fires in hawaaii, and that sits next to the hunter biden laptop story that was buried. its silly by contrast tbh.

in any case when the right wing is in power the right wing reports on real stories less. when the left wing is in power the left wing reports on stories less. they cover for their own side.

or maybe you forgot about how for 4 years under biden MSNBC wouldn't touch a story with a 10 foot pole if it had to do with immigration, unless it was some fluff piece about a Guatemalan mother who escaped persecution.

your premise just aligns with your bias, that you admit you have, yet can't see that. o well i guess.