my point was pakistan is a failed terrorist state. i was being short, i thought you got my hint lol. i have repeated outlined how the US has funded terrorism via pakistan (so has england), for decades.

its also worth considering that 50 years ago the world was far bigger, if that makes sense, with much less migration across continents.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 5 2025 07:57am

your latter point about world size actually brings up an interesting aspect, even in a world where immigration was fairly rare by modern standards something like 250k jews fled every corner of the middle east to inhabit Israel.

but i'd still argue that jewish can in many ways be considered an ethnicity. mostly because of a history of displacement. kurds as goom brought up are the same, despite there being no kurdistan. hmong people would be the same as well, despite being forcibly moved throughout china, vietnam laos and elsewhere. i dont think a people can have a history of not being able to peacefully settle somewhere, and then denied the status of ethnicity as a result.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 5 2025 08:10am

Of course it's an ethnicity considering for literal hundreds of years they lived as minorities in various countries across Europe and parts of ME and maintained their identity without being washed out. Very close nit group that married within and stuck together. A good contrast is Jewish groups and the US.

A bunch of Ashkenazi Jews lived in the USSR or a bunch of Sephardic's lived in the Iberian peninsula and maintained their Jewishness and their blood lines for hundreds of years. Contrast that to white people living in the US. Today most whites that live here that were born or their parents were born here have very little of old world culture. Drive through the Midwest and if you ask a group of white people they'll tell you they are Irish, German, Polish and half a dozen other things, but really any vestige of that old identity is long gone, they are just American 'white' at this point.

I completely agree with this.

Have you seen Chinese Jews by the way ?

no lol

This new one is better , the other has al ot of mistakes and comes out as propaganda.
Didn't quote the area properly saying Hainan instead of Henan.




This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 5 2025 09:32am

Americans have long since achieved ethnogenesis - 'American' is now a valid ethnicity that is an "alloy" so-to-speak of the various Germanic and Latin nations of Europe as well as hybrids of such with Mestizo & Castizo (along with Northern Native American) peoples. East Asians have also been increasingly assimilating into this group over the last 100 years of cooperation.

The tribe we are talking about have long since denied this and sought its eradication by poisoning with genetically divergent, incompatible and outright hostile outgroups, mainly Africans and other South-West Asiatic groups (Indians, Turks, Arabs).

This post was edited by El1te on May 5 2025 09:49am

They're not accepted into the tribe though are they? More like LARPers

here

I really don't think there is any genetic distinction or difference which would justify forming two baskets of people, with whites, Latin Americans (many of which are very dark-skinned btw) and East Asians on the one side, and Africans, Arabs and South Asians on the other. If that's where you want to draw the dividing line, it imho has to be justified on cultural, rather than on genetic grounds.