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May 2 2025 12:14pm
Read my edit

I swear we will see a direct hot war in our lives and I hope I m wrong


i dont think the CCP will do much other than keeping on track. china has tried for decades to get influence over US congress members, they're buying massive amounts of real estate and even farm land. the us has always done the same, just classic espionage. we just hear about it now adays.
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May 2 2025 12:25pm
what a laughable reach.

if 1 out of 1,000 are proven lying, that just means 999 aren't proven lying. you seem to think if 1 out of 1,000 are lying then the other 999 are liars too. then you wrap in gaslighting kids with zero basis.


Not a reach, read the full conversation on that picture posted.
He's basically gloating "So what if someone is lying, because that conforms with my world view that should be forced on everyone else."



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Not a reach, read the full conversation on that picture posted.
He's basically gloating "So what if someone is lying, because that conforms with my world view that should be forced on everyone else."

https://i.imgur.com/sLVNMVm.jpeg


the biggest issue with all conspiracy nuts such as yourself is a base logical fallacy. anyone who disagrees with you just hasn't looked into it enough. if someone thinks differently than you its because they're lazy at best, or worst malicious and just want to push a narrative onto children and society.

you can't, just as everyone with insanely bad theories, confront the reality that people have studied this and came to a different conclusion. whether its flat earth, numerology, holocaust denial, etc. its all the same. all a house built on wet sand.

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the biggest issue with all conspiracy nuts such as yourself is a base logical fallacy. anyone who disagrees with you just hasn't looked into it enough. if someone thinks differently than you its because they're lazy at best, or worst malicious and just want to push a narrative onto children and society.

you can't, just as everyone with insanely bad theories, confront the reality that people have studied this and came to a different conclusion. whether its flat earth, numerology, holocaust denial, etc. its all the same. all a house built on wet sand.


Explain the testimony of all the Sonderkommando who had to empty bodies out of the supposed gas chambers immediately after death to keep the gas chambers running all day, not one of them ever mentioned the bodies being Cherry Red from hydrogen cyanide poisoning.
Explain their testimony of piles of thousands bodies being placed over grates and being able to be burned in the open air as if they were dried wood in a few hours.

I can chalk it up to them clearly having no interest in looking at any of the evidence.

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Explain the testimony of all the Sonderkommando who had to empty bodies out of the supposed gas chambers immediately after death to keep the gas chambers running all day, not one of them ever mentioned the bodies being Cherry Red from hydrogen cyanide poisoning.
Explain their testimony of piles of thousands bodies being placed over grates and being able to be burned in the open air as if they were dried wood in a few hours.


in true form you choose a niche anecdotal already debunked argument. plenty of accounts were collected where it was reported bodies had discolored skin when removed. as to the second i dont even know what this refers to, crematoriums were generally used for gas chamber victims.
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in true form you choose a niche anecdotal already debunked argument. plenty of accounts were collected where it was reported bodies had discolored skin when removed. as to the second i dont even know what this refers to, crematoriums were generally used for gas chamber victims.


Post a link, because all people killed by Hydrogen Cyanide poisoning look like cooked lobsters.
Also the testimony at Nuremberg relied on relatively few prisoner eye witnesses like 3-5, who were never cross examined.
If I do like and ask a LLM for the answers it's already been censored, because someone tried this already and the results must of been deemed offensive by people like you.

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Post a link, because all people killed by Hydrogen Cyanide poisoning look like cooked lobsters.
Also the testimony at Nuremberg relied on relatively few prisoner eye witnesses like 3-5, who were never cross examined.
If I do like ^Santara and ask a LLM for the answers it's already been censored, because someone tried this already and the results must of been deemed offensive by people like you.

https://i.imgur.com/HHtZlvA.jpeg


so your argument is that 3 people didnt mention lobster skin, and this means its fake? odd take.
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May 2 2025 02:40pm
so your argument is that 3 people didnt mention lobster skin, and this means its fake? odd take.


So you got nothing, and you made it up?

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May 2 2025 05:37pm
Someone has clearly never seen a burned piece of meat on a grill. Or tried cooking bacon over open flame.

HoW dOeS iT bUrN?

Once you get the fire started, the body fat fuels the fire.
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Holocaust witness testimony stating discolored bodies removed from the gas chambers.

Holocaust witness testimonies describing discolored bodies removed from gas chambers are documented in various accounts, particularly from survivors and perpetrators at Nazi extermination camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, and Sobibor. The discoloration of victims' bodies—often described as blue, green, or reddish—was attributed to the effects of poison gas, primarily Zyklon B (hydrogen cyanide), used in the chambers. Below is a summary based on historical records and testimonies:
Testimony Context: Witnesses, including Sonderkommando members (prisoners forced to dispose of bodies), reported that victims’ bodies exhibited discoloration after gassing. For example, at Auschwitz, Zyklon B caused cyanosis, a bluish or purplish tint to the skin, due to oxygen deprivation and cyanide’s interference with hemoglobin. Some accounts also noted reddish or greenish hues, possibly from chemical reactions or post-mortem changes.

Specific Accounts:
Filip Müller, an Auschwitz Sonderkommando survivor, described in his memoir Eyewitness Auschwitz (1979) how bodies removed from gas chambers showed "bluish" or "greenish" discoloration, particularly around the face and extremities, due to the effects of Zyklon B.

Rudolf Höss, Auschwitz commandant, in his post-war testimony (Nuremberg Trials, 1946), confirmed the use of Zyklon B and noted that victims’ bodies often appeared discolored, sometimes with a bluish tint, shortly after gassing.

Yehuda Bacon, a survivor of Auschwitz, testified during the Eichmann trial (1961) about seeing bodies with unnatural colors, including blue and red marks, being removed from the chambers.

Treblinka survivors, like Chil Rajchman in his memoir The Last Jew of Treblinka (2009), described similar observations of discolored corpses, though carbon monoxide was often used there, leading to cherry-red discoloration from carboxyhemoglobin formation.

Scientific Explanation:
Zyklon B (cyanide) inhibits cellular respiration, causing cyanosis (blue tint) as oxygen levels drop.

Carbon monoxide, used in some camps, binds to hemoglobin, producing a reddish hue.

Post-mortem lividity and decomposition could enhance greenish or mottled appearances, as noted in some testimonies.

Primary Sources: These observations are corroborated in documents like the Vrba-Wetzler Report (1944), which detailed Auschwitz’s gas chambers and mentioned physical signs on victims, and the Protocols of the Auschwitz Trial (1963-1965), where survivors and SS guards described the process and aftermath.
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