I provided a source with citations, what did you provide?

Wikipedia isn't a source, you know this.
The line you quoted literally came from an anonymous person who said they were a juror, a literal dude bro trust me Wikipedia citation.

This post was edited by PapaPsych on Apr 30 2025 02:56am

Nor does the tangent have anything to do with the topic of this thread

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/hennepin-county-attorneys-office-race-plea-deals/

>The memo from Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty's office said that "proposed resolutions should consider the person charged as a whole person, including their racial identity and age."
>....
>"The Supreme Court has been crystal clear about its extreme levels of hostility to government policies that consider race," said Hasday.
>....
>"This would probably be incredibly unprecedented, I would say, among any prosecutor's office in the United States," said Hamline law professor David Schultz.

This is, as far as I know, the first time in post-jim crow america that the judiciary, prosecutors office, legal system bureaucrats in general, etc have made a formal policy to judge people in criminal court based on their race. I'm not even sure how many formal policies existed in the time of jim crow or slavery, it seems more like the kind of thing you'd just do, not put in writing. I mean, that was the whole point of the post 14th amendment jim crow era. Getting away with it via pretense.
We're now in that funny interim where this policy has just come to light but nobody has actually applied it ('formally') and it hasn't been challenged in court or its full legal implications played out

And its really like throwing a lit M40 into the legal system. How bad will this turn out? Its one thing for a policy to be ruled unconstitutional, its another to give proof that will be used of institutionalized discrimination that can open the door to investigating racial bias in all former cases and potentially put all future cases under judicial guardianship. Police know what its like to have consent decrees, what do we do with a prosecutors office like Moriarty? You can't just say, hey, they were being racist, now they've agreed to stop.

No? It was entered as evidence (this is a fact), the interpretation as "strong evidence" is from a juror (clearly labeled as such). Wikipedia itself is not a "source" in an academic sense, the sources cited are.

There were no formal policies then either, most vigilante lynchings that occurred in the United States fit the demographics of crime.
But they don't teach in schools that white people got lynched too, when their crimes offended the public.
The first lynching they made a big deal as an example of something that needed to have a stop put to the practice I think was in Cairo Illinois.
And the guy the public lynched was guilty as hell of murder and rape of a white woman, so black people at the time were perplexed and indifferent to why the government wanted to have a crusade for such a clearly guilty man.
The ADL was founded to protect a Child Rapist and Murderer who was lynched because they paid the outgoing Governor a lot of money to commute his death sentence and go into hiding.
To this day the ADL still claims Leo Frank was lynched because of racism, despite their own efforts to frame multiple black men for the crime, and making his trial the most expensive defense in US history.

I pointed out the problem with the 'Source cited' that you quoted in the wiki article, footnote [53].

This post was edited by PapaPsych on Apr 30 2025 03:30am

I mean I guess its where and when you go to school. I had the benefit of not growing up in the woke generations so yeah even my history classes pointed out that the biggest lynching was of Italian Americans, that no group got lynched at a higher rate than sicilians and whites were a huge number of the lynchings in general, it wasn't just blacks- just disproportionately black
Buuuuuuuuuut I know for a fact that these days the 38 dakota men hanged at fort snelling are treated by high school teachers like they were lynching victims, I mean jesus christ I fully expect that in 30 years we'll be talking about the lynching at Nuremberg

More likely than not, depending on who you think will be the ruling economic state of the world in 30 years, ruling over a very shitty financial system for everyone else.

https://x.com/CrimeWatchMpls/status/1918115415919649242
https://x.com/CrimeWatchMpls/status/1892413769021870508

To give another spotlight story on how minorities are being charged (or not) by Mary Moriarty in her hennepin count courts.
Minneapolis went 62 days with no murders and then whoopss 6 people were killed out of 20 shootings in a half day span. All gang violence of course, shootings and revenge shootings
4 killed and 1 injured in one shooting was carried out by James Duane Ortley, 34. And just 2 months ago in feburary, Ortley was arrested during another violent crime spree. He and his accomplices carried out multiple carjackings, shootings, attempted murders, armed robberies and burglaries in one day. His accomplice was charged with five felonies but Ortley was released without charges, even though it included a 54 year old man shot in the face and in critical condition at the time, a robbery, a male shot in the chest, a burglary of an unoccupied dwelling, a garage home invasion with an elderly male victim, three carjackings and auto thefts.
Again, despite all that and Ortley being a known gang member who's entire family are career criminals, Ortley was released without charges. At the time, Moriarty didn't have a formal charging policy based upon racial discrimination, but was just doing it informally
Yesterday Ortley shot 5 people, killing 4

But hey it goes deeper
One of the people killed was Evan Roman Denny, recently released from prison despite being convicted of murder in 2016. He was a Native mob (native american gang) member who murdered a Somali man less than 10 years ago and yet was back out on the streets. That was back in 2017 when it was Freeman in charge of the office, the guy who presided over George Floyd and locking up innocent men to feed to the mob while refusing to charge black violent rioters. Freeman's office had charged Denny with murder in 2017;



of course in Minnesota you only actually serve about 1/3 of a prison sentence, not counting time served.
I had to look up the case in the court system, he not only murdered someone over a cell phone in 2016 but just months earlier shot another man following a drug deal, and despite two shootings in a row, one lethal, he was out of prison in just a few years and has been on the streets again, until he got murdered in this mass shooting.

George Floyd died of a self inflicted drug overdose while Derek Chauvin was calling EMTs to try to save his life, and Chauvin got 22.5 years in prison
Evan Denny shot two people, and only spent a few years in prison. Ortley committed two shootings, about 3 burglaries and 3 carjackings all in a row and didn't even charged.
Funny how skin color sentencing works

Ah I thought I recognized it
Ortley was one of the gang members who was committing a random violent burglary spree and shot at bystanders, including nearly killing one neighbor who had just looked out his window when Ortley was breaking into a garage;
https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-man-recovering-after-being-shot-looking-out-window


The guy was one of the three and he still didn't get charged by Mary Moriarty. Just driving around shooting people, stealing cars, breaking into homes and vehicles, carjacking people. He was held and then released. Now he's murdered 4 more people.