Yeah, that's my general assumption for people as well, mostly goldfish brains.

I have little concern about the Canadian election having a significant influence on American politics. Things here will happen as they happen. As it stands, unless the Trumpster starts to put some Ws on the board, 2026 might look bad, but a Democrat presidency in 2028 is nigh on impossible. Mark Carney dreams himself 10 times bigger and stronger than his reality. Canada's economy will be shit and the country will continue to be flooded by Indian migration and even more unrecognizable.

Trump influencing Canadian politics however is a thing, clearly. I at times cringe hard at MAGA cope, but that's not the situation with Carney. He will continue the policy direction of Trudeau (a slow, gay decline) and then all these schizoid dreams of Alberta and Sask seceding will start to look realistic. Or, at least, growing even more distant from the Canadian welfare provinces. This is only good for Trump.

I never once said the Canadian election has an influence on US politics. I said that its clear Trumps actions has lead to influencing others from going conservative to liberal and you should be wary of that happening in your own country for those that sit on the fence. Quite clearly he drove those considering going conservative to run back, it would not surprise me as his approval rating declines as well as consumer outlook declines that those who were on the fence in the last US election go back.

That will show Orange man!!

Voting for liberals just to spite Trump is peak idiocy in my humble opinion. But if that's what the Canadian people want, who am i to say otherwise as a foreigner.




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This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 29 2025 02:01pm

Uhh I think you're taking it the wrong way. Its not to spite Orange Man. Its a , holy shit this guys unhinged , maybe we need to reconsider going further right-wing, since currently Donald represents right-wing.

That's not spite, that's a reconsideration after watching the actions of someone who represents a part of the political spectrum or is supposed to anyways.

Or that's how I interpreted why voters all went back liberal, I doubt its out of spite. That's silly and pretty nonsense.

And that's why I think there is consideration for the quite on the fence voter that could flop, don't get me wrong 4 years is lots of time, but just the short term decisions were enough to drive Canadians back away from the right-wing and I think that's representative in US figures too. His approval rating is dropping quite quickly, consumer indexes are nearing all time 50+ year lows, etc.

This post was edited by SBD on Apr 29 2025 02:16pm

Mate click on that link and see flat GDP per capita while literally every other country grew 5-20%

You guys doubled down on that, probably for another 5 years? Idk how the Conservatives would have fared, idc i don't live in Canada but i sure as fuck would want drastic change, and what someone externally does would have very little impact in how i should view the last 10 years domestically.

I clicked it, its not relevant to what happened. What happened, happened already. Voters were overwhelmingly polling a majority Conservative gov't, Trump comes in, is pretty erratic and voters went back liberal. So while you might not take into account how a foreign leader acts who is aligned to xyz political spectrum, clearly Canadians very much do / did.

If it was some smaller irrelevant country that didn't get media, probably would have been nothing.

Edit: I don't agree with it, I went to the pole to vote conservative hoping for even just a bit of change, but it didn't work out and I am surprised Polly lost his seat... that's probably the biggest upset I didn't at all see coming.

This post was edited by SBD on Apr 29 2025 02:23pm

Personally if was the voter it's relevant, because that's what should be the measuring stick of a party is re-elected or not, what was their performance. In the grand scheme of things, these tariffs likely blow over and US-Canada will have some deal so Trump's actual impact on the average Canadian life is very close to 0. Meanwhile those liberal politicians will have a fuck ton of influence, on economics, immigration, spending, etc. for years.

I hope it works out for you guys, hopefully they're more sensible than prior years and implement some real positive changes.

Right... I still don't think there's anything different or special about Trump in that it tracks historically for the first 2 years of any POTUS to lose approval and then get punished in the midterms. That said, I still think, because US Democrats are so fractured, rudderless, and insane, that they might not even be able to capitalize on a very unpopular Trump.

What do you make of Carney being carried hard by Boomers? Saw a chart showing that Canadian Boomers primarily care about "dealing with Trump" more than any other issue, and every other age group values dealing with Trump with far less priority than, say, improving life in Canada. Seems we'll all benefit from the day of the pillow, eh?

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