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Apr 26 2025 02:01am
Trade deficit per capita for you would be (440B-476B)/pop which is negative therefore a surplus

you import $11k per person but export $11.9k per person therefore you have a $900 surplus per capita

Just because you import more per person than we do doesn't mean you have a deficit per person because you export more too.



What you are calculating is not trade surplus per capita but imports per capita. You can't ignore your exports when talking about a surplus... sorry but you are wrong


Trump's tariffs are bs.. America is 4% of the world's population with 24% of the world's profit in trades or was.. Ever here the saying don't try fix what is not broken? The wealthy are losing their profits from world now turning on it's own citizens ..The empire is eating itself now, like all empires do at the end..
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Again, you are using the “total numbers” which makes no sense. That’s like saying the USA has a trade deficit with me individually. Obviously it’s 340 million importing compared to 1 person importing. The same logic applies to a country as a whole. 340m million people consume more total goods than 40m people. Therefore the “total imports” for the 340m will always be greater. OBVIOUSLY WE EXPORT MORE TO 340m people than we import as 40m people. 340m people eat more food, need more clothes, need more gas than 40m people. Is this so hard to understand? You are calculating the per capita values incorrectly. This is basic economics. Honestly you are just proving my point from my original post, most Americans blindly accept what Trump says or truly don’t grasp the economics.
I’m done here.


Dude you are ignoring one variable in a 2 variable equation, my posts before clearly outline your flaw in discussion of trade surplus/deficit.

Please Google deficit/surplus equation

You must include exports it's part of the equation....not blindly accepting Trump simply doing math proper.

Funny how you are accusing me of exactly what you are doing.
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Apr 26 2025 06:14am
Trump's tariffs are bs.. America is 4% of the world's population with 24% of the world's profit in trades or was.. Ever here the saying don't try fix what is not broken? The wealthy are losing their profits from world now turning on it's own citizens ..The empire is eating itself now, like all empires do at the end..


This doesn't change the math or definition behind trade surplus.



To get back into an emotional debate....do you all want the American empire to end ? Would you rather China be the top world power?

I'm able to both criticize and appreciate Trump's actions. issue in most political conversations today stems from people being brainwashed into thinking only one way or the other...that's what the elites want you to be fit into your bucket and be controlled...

We should not be going against each other based on race, sex, county of origin

It should be normal working folks vrs globalist elites who have way too much power and most should be in prison if our justice systems weren't hostilely controlled with money

At least in America the red/blue stuff is all BS since they are nearly all hyper wealthy and above the law.

I agree Trump isn't perfect but he was the only option we had that might fight the elites, sad we didn't have more options to vote for.

This idea that people should be separate based on their vote is legit buying into the hate and distraction the elites want of us

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Apr 26 2025 06:33am
Dude you are ignoring one variable in a 2 variable equation, my posts before clearly outline your flaw in discussion of trade surplus/deficit.

Please Google deficit/surplus equation

You must include exports it's part of the equation....not blindly accepting Trump simply doing math proper.

Funny how you are accusing me of exactly what you are doing.


You are 100% wrong. Your math only works if the populations are the same, which they are not.

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For example, Canada can pump out unlimited oil based on demand. If 340 million people want to import oil, there is no way 40million people could ever match importing that number.

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Apr 26 2025 06:42am
You are 100% wrong. Your math only works if the populations are the same, which they are not.


Here's the formula:
Trade Deficit = Total Value of Imports - Total Value of Exports


Not wrong just using 2 variables in a 2 variable equation

You are saying trade deficit but only using value of imports without also using value of exports

Please address this and you will see that in fact per capita you have a trade surplus
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Apr 26 2025 06:45am
I have answered that MANY times, MANY times. OBVIOUSLY 340 MILLION PEOPLE IMPORT MORE THAN 40M PEOPLE.

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Apr 26 2025 06:53am
To make trade “equal” between Canada and USA, our exports should be 8.5x our imports (the difference in populations). The fact that we are even close in trade numbers is a sad astonishing fact of how reliant we are on the USA economy.
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Dude but you never include exports when it's part of the trade deficit equation

Number of people is the third variable when making it per capita but you must include exports or change the argument to "we import a lot more American goods than Americans import of Canadian goods per person/"

Where to this I would say yes that's true but you also export a lot more to America per person as well resulting in a trade deficit per person for Americans or a surplus for Canadians

Can't win a math debate by simply ignoring a variable (exports) from both the equation and conversation
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To make trade “equal” between Canada and USA, our exports should be 8.5x our imports (the difference in populations). The fact that we are even close in trade numbers is a sad astonishing fact of how reliant we are on the USA economy.


i do agree you all are very reliant on us and that is a risk. I also agree that I don't want for either of our countries sake to ruin this relationship.

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Dude but you never include exports when it's part of the trade deficit equation

Number of people is the third variable when making it per capita but you must include exports or change the argument to "we import a lot more American goods than Americans import of Canadian goods per person/"

Where to this I would say yes that's true but you also export a lot more to America per person as well resulting in a trade deficit per person for Americans or a surplus for Canadians

Can't win a math debate by simply ignoring a variable (exports) from both the equation and conversation


It’s not ignoring a valuable. You are ignoring the population variable. Do you have any education in economics?
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