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Sorry man, I'm not interested in debating every single discussion to the bitter end, particularly when it's clear that the premises are off.





1. A lot of users in this thread have defended Hamas' goals while not saying a word of criticism about their heinous methods (hiding in schools and hospitals, using civilians as human shields).
2. It isn't one country, precisely because Israelis knows full well that a "one-state solution" would mean that Jews become a minority in "their own" country in the forseeable, near-term future - the country which was specifically founded as a safe haven for Jews around the world, the country whose whole raison d´être is to be the first/only Jewish-majority country on the planet. A full democracy with a hostile majority which wants to genocide you is not really a smart idea, is it?

This leaves a two-state solution as the only viable path forward. But even that isn't trivial when the Palestinians constantly use their self-governed territory as a rocket launching pad in direct proximity to Israel... On the flip side, the landgrabs Israel is carrying out in the West Bank are a big no-go, too. I've condemned them multiple times in this thread.
3. Gaza wasn't in a state of war pre-Oct7. It was Hamas which brought this war upon Gaza with their savage butchery. Likewise, the developments since Oct7 don't explain or excuse why there hadn't been a single election in Gaza between 2007 and 2023.



Jordan does have a functioning judiciary and parliamentary elections, yes, but this doesn't mean that it is actually a democracy. The Jordanian king is the head of state, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, it is him who appoints the prime minister and the government (not the parliament!) and he has full veto powers over any bills parliament might pass. He can unilaterally declare war or a state of emergency, dismiss the government or dissolve parliament. At the end of the day, nearly all power in the country is still vested in the king, rather than in democratically elected institutions. Therefore, the country is still an authoritarian monarchy with a democratic veneer, rather than the other way round.


Who here defended hamas' goals? As far as I've read noone did!
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was our CIA circulating terrorist propaganda amongst themselves in the 1970's?
You disavow this?


https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp88-01314R000100360016-9.pdf
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^Many_names was our CIA circulating terrorist propaganda amongst themselves in the 1970's?
^Ferdia You disavow this?

https://i.imgur.com/nC3C6Qt.png
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp88-01314R000100360016-9.pdf


Your barking up the wrong tree here. Most of the regulars in the Russia thread are aware that I provided personal information early on in that thread, i.e. that I had a relative killed in a german concentration camp in ww2. As you will see in the Russia thread, there are a number of, special, users, that repeatedly get banned and rejoin the debate under a new Multi. one of those users made this : https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1423678 and this https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1423678

i.e. having jewish relatives, and living in europe, I completely distance myself from what you are suggesting. the Holocaust did in fact happen. The reason why I post in this thread is because I struggle with accepting what is now being done. saying there is no ethnic cleansing or genocide in Israel is like saying there was no ethnic cleansing or genocide in WW2.

edit and thank you again to the senior moderator (you know who you are) who helped me with the above issue.

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^Many_names was our CIA circulating terrorist propaganda amongst themselves in the 1970's?
^Ferdia You disavow this?

https://i.imgur.com/nC3C6Qt.png
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp88-01314R000100360016-9.pdf


Who's the author of this article and what is the context? Was this article written by a CIA official or by a journalist from the Washington Observer? And was it a factual report or an opinion column?

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Your barking up the wrong tree here. Most of the regulars in the Russia thread are aware that I provided personal information early on in that thread, i.e. that I had a relative killed in a german concentration camp in ww2. As you will see in the Russia thread, there are a number of, special, users, that repeatedly get banned and rejoin the debate under a new Multi. one of those users made this : https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1423678 and this https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1423678

i.e. having jewish relatives, and living in europe, I completely distance myself from what you are suggesting. the Holocaust did in fact happen. The reason why I post in this thread is because I struggle with accepting what is now being done. saying there is no ethnic cleansing or genocide in Israel is like saying there was no ethnic cleansing or genocide in WW2.

edit and thank you again to the senior moderator (you know who you are) who helped me with the above issue.

Yeah my grandparents survived the 'Holocaust' that doesn't mean I allow the jewish people to gaslight lies, and need to accept those lies as justification for doing absolutely evil horrific things.
This shit would end tomorrow if it was called out.


Who's the author of this article and what is the context? Was this article written by a CIA official or by a journalist from the Washington Observer? And was it a factual report or an opinion column?


Counterspy Magazine, a CIA internal publication for people with proper security clearances, the articles are written by CIA agents, It's obviously a factual report, but go ahead and complain as if this is reddit that it doesn't have footnotes you will obviously never look at.
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On April 16, 2025, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz reaffirmed that Israel will not permit any humanitarian aid into Gaza.
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The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have concluded their investigation into the March 23, 2025, incident in Rafah, Gaza, where 15 aid workers were killed.
1. The IDF acknowledged multiple professional failures, including violations of military orders and inadequate incident reporting. 1 Officer lost his role (he is still in the army) and no other punishment.
2. Misidentification: The aid workers, comprising personnel from the Palestinian Red Crescent, Civil Defense, and a U.N. employee, were mistakenly identified as Hamas operatives due to poor night visibility and other factors. However this is a lie as we now know from the video that it was clearly an ambulance convoy.
3. Aftermath Actions: The investigation condemned the subsequent bulldozing of the vehicles and bodies into a mass grave but rejected allegations of execution or concealment. So basically : they know what they did was wrong, they covered it up, literally, and its inconvenient and regrettable that video evidence proves that the IDF lied through their teeth. There is no reason to bury the ambulances in a mass grave with all the bodies, yet here we are.
4. Disciplinary Measures: As a result of the findings, a deputy battalion commander was dismissed. The Military Advocate General is reviewing the case to determine if further legal actions are warranted. ​Dismissed from his role, not from the army.

this is exactly what everyone expected.

meanwhile, in the west bank...(haaretz) 2025 has been dubbed the 'year of sovereignty in Judea and Samaria' by Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich.

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59 Hostages still held in gaza based on latest reports, with 22 dead (israel wants their bodies back) and 37 presumed still alive.
ofc no one mentions that 9500+ Palestinians are held in Israel.

the mental gymnastics can be tricky when stuff like this is examined.

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https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6683/Israeli-targeting-of-Al-Ahli-Arab-Hospital-is-a-deliberate-assault-on-life-and-Gaza%E2%80%99s-last-refuge

"Israeli forces have deliberately targeted 37 Aid Distribution center's and 28 Food Banks as part of a systematic and deliberate policy to starve civilians".

kinda says it all.

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