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"They were just shit posts in a classified intelligence publication, that turned out to be true"
Yes how could the CIA possibly know that the Jewish population of the world did not decrease during or after the Holocaustâ„¢


The CIA was founded in 1947, my family were at the Nuremberg trials, I think I trust my gramp's accounts of Goering and Ribbentrop and what he saw, than some conspiracy nut nonsense being tossed around wackadoodles who probably think crisis actors swapped the sandy hook kids for dummies before being beamed up to kolob
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"They were just shit posts in a classified intelligence publication, that turned out to be true"
Yes how could the CIA possibly know that the Jewish population of the world did not decrease during or after the Holocaustâ„¢


You can take that Ron Paul lapel pin off of your shirt, no Ron Paul supporters are unaware of the JQ, let alone fervent supporters of Israel and Zionism.


Look at the original text underneath the "approved for release 2004/..."-stamp: it reads "The Washington Observer". That's the publication where this article was originally published. See also the multiple instances in which the author refers to himself/his newspaper as "WO". In this article, the author is railing against various things, among them reporting in Counterspy magazine, a left-wing publication which was a thorn in the CIA's side in the early 70s, and against the Jews.


This is clearly not an official document of the CIA itself, it is a document of interest to the CIA because it touched upon a few CIA-adjacent topics and thus made its way to their archives. If you had actually taken the time to read the whole thing, you would quickly notice the extremely casual writing style and the lack of focus, meandering from topic to topic in quick succession. It's laughable to sell this garbage as an official, internal document of the CIA in which it "accidentally admits that the Holocaust was a lie".

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It was before the internet, so I guess my grandparents were just making up stories for shits and giggles to amuse themselves.


My grandpa didn't even tell stories. Whatever he saw was so bad that he refused to talk about the war for the rest of his life. I had to research his trek through Europe to understand where he went and what he saw. 63rd infantry division (I've seen his name on the division roster) is recognized by the US Holocaust Memorial as liberators of several sub camps of the Kaufering complex near Landsberg on 29-30 April, 1945.

36 US divisions are recognized as liberating death camps.

You can take that Ron Paul lapel pin off of your shirt, no Ron Paul supporters are unaware of the JQ, let alone fervent supporters of Israel and Zionism.


No True Scotsman...

Look at the original text underneath the "approved for release 2004/..."-stamp: it reads "The Washington Observer". That's the publication where this article was originally published. See also the multiple instances in which the author refers to himself/his newspaper as "WO". In this article, the author is railing against various things, among them reporting in Counterspy magazine, a left-wing publication which was a thorn in the CIA's side in the early 70s, and against the Jews.


This is clearly not an official document of the CIA itself, it is a document of interest to the CIA because it touched upon a few CIA-adjacent topics and thus made its way to their archives. If you had actually taken the time to read the whole thing, you would quickly notice the extremely casual writing style and the lack of focus, meandering from topic to topic in quick succession. It's laughable to sell this garbage as an official, internal document of the CIA in which it "accidentally admits that the Holocaust was a lie".


Those types rely on innuendo and obfuscation to perpetuate their racist lies. Nothing new.
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My grandpa didn't even tell stories. Whatever he saw was so bad that he refused to talk about the war for the rest of his life. I had to research his trek through Europe to understand where he went and what he saw. 63rd infantry division (I've seen his name on the division roster) is recognized by the US Holocaust Memorial as liberators of several sub camps of the Kaufering complex near Landsberg on 29-30 April, 1945.

36 US divisions are recognized as liberating death camps.


My grandpa never talked about it once as far as I know. But just like how he could still field strip and reassemble his 1911 in a couple minutes, he remembered everything vividly and wrote down his entire recollection of the war dated 2018 and I typed the whole thing up. If you care to read part of it, its pretty clear why my grandpa spent his life being friendly and tending to his garden and never once got angry with anyone. Helped raise half the kids on the street as a surrogate father when lets just say at least one got sent up the river

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My grandpa never talked about it once as far as I know. But just like how he could still field strip and reassemble his 1911 in a couple minutes, he remembered everything vividly and wrote down his entire recollection of the war dated 2018 and I typed the whole thing up. If you care to read part of it, its pretty clear why my grandpa spent his life being friendly and tending to his garden and never once got angry with anyone. Helped raise half the kids on the street as a surrogate father when lets just say at least one got sent up the river

https://i.imgur.com/PH8SdUz.jpeg


Similar grandpa history here. Guy volunteers and is in boot camp a 17. Sent to Pacific theatre to maintain planes and teach pilots part of some Navy carrier group. Raised 5 of his own, and 2 of his brother's children. Never talked a word about the war other than his base duty, and one of story about almost having to ditch from a stalled out plane.

My grandma though... We found an old stack of letters in her attic (she 96*) of correspondence to her young love. Guy never made it back home, she never mentioned him to anyone. He died in the European theatre

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Look at the original text underneath the "approved for release 2004/..."-stamp: it reads "The Washington Observer". That's the publication where this article was originally published. See also the multiple instances in which the author refers to himself/his newspaper as "WO". In this article, the author is railing against various things, among them reporting in Counterspy magazine, a left-wing publication which was a thorn in the CIA's side in the early 70s, and against the Jews.


This is clearly not an official document of the CIA itself, it is a document of interest to the CIA because it touched upon a few CIA-adjacent topics and thus made its way to their archives. If you had actually taken the time to read the whole thing, you would quickly notice the extremely casual writing style and the lack of focus, meandering from topic to topic in quick succession. It's laughable to sell this garbage as an official, internal document of the CIA in which it "accidentally admits that the Holocaust was a lie".


My grandpa didn't even tell stories. Whatever he saw was so bad that he refused to talk about the war for the rest of his life. I had to research his trek through Europe to understand where he went and what he saw. 63rd infantry division (I've seen his name on the division roster) is recognized by the US Holocaust Memorial as liberators of several sub camps of the Kaufering complex near Landsberg on 29-30 April, 1945.

36 US divisions are recognized as liberating death camps.



No True Scotsman...



Those types rely on innuendo and obfuscation to perpetuate their racist lies. Nothing new.


No, It's Counterspy Magazine, here's the accompanying FOIA release for the article.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp88-01314r000100360016-9
The Idea that the government can somehow classify a public press companies news story to the public is absolutely deluded.

Y'all hashing out generational trauma attributing why your grandpa didn't talk about the war is probably as foreign to you as to why he didn't scam the VA system for 100% benefits for PTSD or Tinnitus that doesn't exist.
My grandfather didn't talk about about his time in the 28th infantry except one time, once a story about his capture in the Battle of the Bulge.



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The CIA was founded in 1947, my family were at the Nuremberg trials, I think I trust my gramp's accounts of Goering and Ribbentrop and what he saw, than some conspiracy nut nonsense being tossed around wackadoodles who probably think crisis actors swapped the sandy hook kids for dummies before being beamed up to kolob


Yeah did he talk about what a show trial it was, and that the defendants were appointed attorneys that would never cross examine witnesses, evidence, or refute accusations on their behalf?

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Yeah did he talk about what a show trial it was, and that the defendants were appointed attorneys that would never cross examine witnesses, evidence, or refute accusations on their behalf?
https://i.imgur.com/qTMCKRG.jpeg


How many times does a society need to rehash the deniers? Remember watching/reading Skeptic publication on this. Like every 10 years some morons rehash heavily treaded ground.

It's true that people have exaggerated aspects of the Holocaust, but that does not logically follow to invalidate the state sanctioned mass genocide of a population.

What line are you towing here?


Here was the segment I was referring to,



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How many times does a society need to rehash the deniers? Remember watching/reading Skeptic publication on this. Like every 10 years some morons rehash heavily treaded ground.

It's true that people have exaggerated aspects of the Holocaust, but that does not logically follow to invalidate the state sanctioned mass genocide of a population.

What line are you towing here?


I've been pretty clear on this, that 6,000,000 is a gross exaggeration, that the real number is much closer to the international red cross number of 248,000

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