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Apr 17 2025 10:18pm
What a dumb comment, i was raised in that religion and have as much knowledge on it as anyone, if you do not want to participate in a discussion maybe forums are not something you should spend time on.


why did you leave it?
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Apr 17 2025 10:20pm
Hes not gonna cure any of you
Just sayin
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Apr 17 2025 10:24pm
Hes not gonna cure any of you
Just sayin


can't be worse than Fauci.... right? ... right?
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Apr 17 2025 11:06pm
can't be worse than Fauci.... right? ... right?


whats his name backwards?





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Apr 17 2025 11:17pm
What a dumb comment, i was raised in that religion and have as much knowledge on it as anyone, if you do not want to participate in a discussion maybe forums are not something you should spend time on.


"raised in that religion" millionaire coal baron, green beret, federal special agent, 5 time cancer survivor, inventor of martial arts and self defense. Excuse me if I don't take advice from a pathological liar without morals. Maybe if you don't want to get called out for foolish arguments you shouldn't make them.
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Apr 18 2025 05:21am
People who don't understand vaccines are so quick to accept them as safe.

e- People who understand vaccines are so quick to accept them as safe.

Because they've been brainwashed into believing.

VAC'CINE, adjective [Latin vaccinus, from vacca, a cow.]
Pertaining to cows; originating with or derived from cows; as the vaccine disease or cow-pox.

vaccine
noun
1. a substance used to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen, typically prepared from an inactivated or weakened form of the causative agent or from its constituents or products


The very nature of a 'vaccine' is to add something to the human body which it does not like, in order to Provoke a response.
It's harming yourself.

I am not anti-vax, this is not an anti-vax statement. It's acknowledging this layer of reality. For better or worse, the truth.


Turning this into a semantic matter? Nice.
I recommend "Kuby's Immunology", it was quite easy to read. You'll need a basic understanding of the human immune system in order to appreciate - or not - the point of vaccines.
We are inches away from a Shigella vaccine, not a very good one, but with high participation rates this could make an enormous impact in sub-Saharan Africa. We're 5-15 years off from being able to vaccinate against S. pyogenes, the cause of PSGN, rheumatic cardiopathy, necrotising fasciitis and scarlatina. Beliefs that stem from "I do my own research" at the "I read it on facebook once" level is what hampers advancement in health care. I fully understand this is not a problem at all for US citizens. Your current bottleneck is accessibility and that'll be the problem for another ten years to come.

The fact that vaccines activate the immune system (which is the whole fucking point btw) is exactly why they undergo far more rigorous trials and procedures and are much more looked at by ethical committees. The example of Pandemrix and, later on, AstraZeneca's sars-cov-2 vaccine, should tell you that much.

if you genuinely believe this is true and it is found to be verifiably false will you question other things you find to be true and can be shown to be false?

if you know it to be false, why repeat it? doesn't that damage your credibility to knowingly repeat false things?


He said on live television that IV desinfectants should be explored and only later nuanced it. My statement might have been a hyperbole on that, but it is not wrong.
"Will you question other things you find to be true if found to be verifiably false" is VERY rich coming from MAGA or anti vax. Perhaps take a bigass fucking look in the mirror because we're here discussing the correlation between autism and vaccines.

Here is a starting point for you, given to you on a silver platter. You can adjust syntax for use in cochrane's database, embase, scopus and web of science. I will assume, given your vigilance on the subject, that you are familiar with the Hierarchy of Evidence.


If you're so hellbend on your health and how the institutional level of society negatively impacts it, why not show the same level of vigilance towards microplastic? That's one cause that needs a lot more attention.

I find it puzzling how US citizens, now voting for an all-out-for-economy administration, keep questioning not those health practices with little to no evidence (such as chiropracticioning, osteopathy,...) but instead wish for the government to spend billions on new research to study that which has been studied excessively. I once bothered to sum up the amount of evidence in existence to disprove the use of ivermectin in sars-cov-2 to a guy in donor forum. The pandemic was not even over yet before I found FIFTY-TWO meta-analyses saying that the practice of gobbling up ivermectin for this purpose was bullshit. Even then, people were asking for evidence to show the benefit and harm of using ivermectin against sars-cov-2. The US population continues to ask for reinventing the wheel and shall always do so until it is educated or until the wheel has the shape that the population is told by their populist president of the time that they need.

This post was edited by Leeevee on Apr 18 2025 05:35am
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Apr 18 2025 05:29am
"raised in that religion" millionaire coal baron, green beret, federal special agent, 5 time cancer survivor, inventor of martial arts and self defense. Excuse me if I don't take advice from a pathological liar without morals. Maybe if you don't want to get called out for foolish arguments you shouldn't make them.


Your obsession with me is growing, seems kinda creepy.
why did you leave it?


My pastor s/a'd me at a weekend bible camp, I was 9.
I left the faith when I was 12, I read the bible cover to cover, I saw way too much contradiction and pettiness to attribute the word of God to it.
The old vs new testaments gods are two entirely different beings.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Apr 18 2025 05:33am
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Apr 18 2025 08:35am
Turning this into a semantic matter?


It's not semantic.

A parent should protect their child until that child is an adult, gaining their freedom and capable of making educated decisions.
To knowingly harm the child is abuse, piercing the flesh and injecting an illness or putting them in an environment to infect them with illness.

Furthermore if the parent genuinely cared about their freedom and their child's freedom,
they would protect their child until they're an adult.

But you don't understand real freedom.
Your parents hindered your freedom, you hinder your own freedom and you will very likely hinder your children's future freedom.

This post was edited by Mondain on Apr 18 2025 08:37am
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Apr 18 2025 08:45am
Turning this into a semantic matter? Nice.
I recommend "Kuby's Immunology", it was quite easy to read. You'll need a basic understanding of the human immune system in order to appreciate - or not - the point of vaccines.
We are inches away from a Shigella vaccine, not a very good one, but with high participation rates this could make an enormous impact in sub-Saharan Africa. We're 5-15 years off from being able to vaccinate against S. pyogenes, the cause of PSGN, rheumatic cardiopathy, necrotising fasciitis and scarlatina. Beliefs that stem from "I do my own research" at the "I read it on facebook once" level is what hampers advancement in health care. I fully understand this is not a problem at all for US citizens. Your current bottleneck is accessibility and that'll be the problem for another ten years to come.

The fact that vaccines activate the immune system (which is the whole fucking point btw) is exactly why they undergo far more rigorous trials and procedures and are much more looked at by ethical committees. The example of Pandemrix and, later on, AstraZeneca's sars-cov-2 vaccine, should tell you that much.



He said on live television that IV desinfectants should be explored and only later nuanced it. My statement might have been a hyperbole on that, but it is not wrong.
"Will you question other things you find to be true if found to be verifiably false" is VERY rich coming from MAGA or anti vax. Perhaps take a bigass fucking look in the mirror because we're here discussing the correlation between autism and vaccines.

Here is a starting point for you, given to you on a silver platter. You can adjust syntax for use in cochrane's database, embase, scopus and web of science. I will assume, given your vigilance on the subject, that you are familiar with the Hierarchy of Evidence.
https://i.imgur.com/Pj6DxVO.png

If you're so hellbend on your health and how the institutional level of society negatively impacts it, why not show the same level of vigilance towards microplastic? That's one cause that needs a lot more attention.

I find it puzzling how US citizens, now voting for an all-out-for-economy administration, keep questioning not those health practices with little to no evidence (such as chiropracticioning, osteopathy,...) but instead wish for the government to spend billions on new research to study that which has been studied excessively. I once bothered to sum up the amount of evidence in existence to disprove the use of ivermectin in sars-cov-2 to a guy in donor forum. The pandemic was not even over yet before I found FIFTY-TWO meta-analyses saying that the practice of gobbling up ivermectin for this purpose was bullshit. Even then, people were asking for evidence to show the benefit and harm of using ivermectin against sars-cov-2. The US population continues to ask for reinventing the wheel and shall always do so until it is educated or until the wheel has the shape that the population is told by their populist president of the time that they need.


how close are we to a covid19 vaccine?

Your obsession with me is growing, seems kinda creepy.


My pastor s/a'd me at a weekend bible camp, I was 9.
I left the faith when I was 12, I read the bible cover to cover, I saw way too much contradiction and pettiness to attribute the word of God to it.
The old vs new testaments gods are two entirely different beings.


im sorry what happened to you. catholic institution isnt christianity and they dont follow scripture. some actually believe they are the antichrist system

your claims about scripture. you realize thay are just claims until you prove it. i dont know how many time i have tested some one who made grand claims of scripture. only to have them fail 100% of the time. in fact it was the 'disbelievers and antitheists that ended up convincing the truth of the gospel more than anything else.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Apr 18 2025 08:52am
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Apr 18 2025 09:48am
Your obsession with me is growing, seems kinda creepy.


Do you lie because you think everything revolves around you?
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