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Apr 15 2025 11:53am
The hearing was supposed to validate the assertion the capitol was indeed attacked at the level of a coup, but if you watched it it's hard to respect the committee peddling in propaganda messaging. If you watch a lot of it, you realize there was no coordinated attack effort. A misled crowd with a few wackos and deep state agents embedded.

Not defending the idiots who participated, but to exaggerate it to a capital attack with coup intentions is absurd when you evaluate the happened in entirety. Too boring for you I think ?


I understand that classifying it as a coup seems like a stretch but if you think about what it was functionally. Many of those people would probably admit it was a coup who participated. At the end of the day calling it either a "peaceful protest" or a "coup" is wildly inaccurate if we're talking about it in broad strokes.
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Apr 15 2025 11:56am
And I mocked those idiots then too. This is still worse?


Honestly i think the only difference was the people who marched on the capital, in the context of "worse".

politically what Hillary and the democrats did was at least as bad as Trump publicly denying the election results, perhaps worse. Trump and the republicans didn't impeach biden over it, they pursued (with zero success because there was no evidence) litigation in courts, and they publicly talked about it. they were even legally dealt with via defamation lawsuits by Dominion. meanwhile the democrats in 2016 actually did pursue in congressional committees and courts to shake down and jail anyone they could. Mike Flynn and Paul manafort, who are both idiots, got scapegoated for a minor procedural issue of talking to a foreign entity slightly too early before inauguration. Obama by contrast handled the transition well and with decorum, just about everyone else behaved like children. the Biden whitehouse in 2024 was perhaps even worse, and during the lame duck phase made so many disgusting and unprecedented moves its mind boggling. its hard to make any moral argument unless you use 100x magnification and are very pedantic with definitions in this subject.
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Apr 15 2025 11:56am
This is my first time ever talking to you, dude. By the way you are threatening me with physical violence. I'm pretty sure that's against the site rules. Just remember if someone reports you it wasn't me.


I didn't threaten anything, It's you and the leftists who advocate for violence nonstop. You haven't made an argument in 10 posts, great thread. Your lies have crumbled to dust.
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Apr 15 2025 11:58am
Imagine if democrats tried to get their political opponents arrested and taken off ballots. Raided their homes with guns drawn in the middle of the night. Filed dozens of spurious felonies against people for abiding by the law. Imagine if democrats filled an entire prison with political opponents for their political assembly. Imagine if democrats stoked riots and burned down homes and businesses and shot people in the streets. Imagine if democrats locked up innocent men as sacrifices to appease the mobs they exhorted. Imagine if democrats refused the results of an election and a governor candidate insisted for years she was cheated out of the office and the son of a democratic VP candidate attacked a capitol building with smoke bombs and assaulted police officers and the democrat AG let him off scot free. Imagine if democrats started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people while personally profiteering by taking bribes and kickbacks, all while funneling heavy weapons to actual Nazi war criminals. Imagine if democrats pardoned a child murdering gang banger just because he converted to islam in prison and then a year later he was arrested with an illegal firearm and cache of drugs running a street corner drug operation at George Floyd square. Imagine the headlines CNN would never write. Imagine the questions Karine Jean Pierre would never be asked.
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Apr 15 2025 12:01pm
Honestly i think the only difference was the people who marched on the capital, in the context of "worse".

politically what Hillary and the democrats did was at least as bad as Trump publicly denying the election results, perhaps worse. Trump and the republicans didn't impeach biden over it, they pursued (with zero success because there was no evidence) litigation in courts, and they publicly talked about it. they were even legally dealt with via defamation lawsuits by Dominion. meanwhile the democrats in 2016 actually did pursue in congressional committees and courts to shake down and jail anyone they could. Mike Flynn and Paul manafort, who are both idiots, got scapegoated for a minor procedural issue of talking to a foreign entity slightly too early before inauguration. Obama by contrast handled the transition well and with decorum, just about everyone else behaved like children. the Biden whitehouse in 2024 was perhaps even worse, and during the lame duck phase made so many disgusting and unprecedented moves its mind boggling. its hard to make any moral argument unless you use 100x magnification and are very pedantic with definitions in this subject.


Except Trump did pardon those who marched and broken into the building. Honestly, if Trump didn't pardon them I really might agree with you at the end of the day. But the fact that he did really sets a dangerous precedent. I agree that Biden was generally just as bad if not worse than Trump. Especially the Democrats and their blatant disregard for the working class and Palestine.

But again Trump is setting even new lows with his new presidency. A lot of Trump hate during his first term was completely overblown by liberal media.
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Apr 15 2025 12:04pm
Imagine if democrats tried to get their political opponents arrested and taken off ballots. Raided their homes with guns drawn in the middle of the night. Filed dozens of spurious felonies against people for abiding by the law. Imagine if democrats filled an entire prison with political opponents for their political assembly. Imagine if democrats stoked riots and burned down homes and businesses and shot people in the streets. Imagine if democrats locked up innocent men as sacrifices to appease the mobs they exhorted. Imagine if democrats refused the results of an election and a governor candidate insisted for years she was cheated out of the office and the son of a democratic VP candidate attacked a capitol building with smoke bombs and assaulted police officers and the democrat AG let him off scot free. Imagine if democrats started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people while personally profiteering by taking bribes and kickbacks, all while funneling heavy weapons to actual Nazi war criminals. Imagine if democrats pardoned a child murdering gang banger just because he converted to islam in prison and then a year later he was arrested with an illegal firearm and cache of drugs running a street corner drug operation at George Floyd square. Imagine the headlines CNN would never write. Imagine the questions Karine Jean Pierre would never be asked.


Pretty sure both Republicans and Democrats are guilty of many of these things but it doesn't change my point. As for war criminals? Isn't Trump doing everything to defend Netanyahu from international justice, arguably the greatest war criminal of our age?
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Apr 15 2025 12:06pm
I didn't threaten anything, It's you and the leftists who advocate for violence nonstop. You haven't made an argument in 10 posts, great thread. Your lies have crumbled to dust.


You called me a domestic terrorist, wished I was deported to El Savador (a location increasingly looking more and more like a death camp). Lol.

You can call me a liar or disagree with me. Both those are calls to violence as far as I'm concerned, even if they are state-sponsored violence.
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Apr 15 2025 12:08pm
Refused the results of an election. Attacked the Capitol building in an attempt to change the results.

Then 4~ years later the same Democrat who incited the riot won and then pardoned the attackers.

This is why I can never support Trump. As much as I hate the Democrats, and I really do.. they have never stooped this low. This is the lowest of lows our country has ever faced in politics.

You really cannot claim the "left" is the problem when this is literally what is happening on the right. If you are man enough you will admit this.


I mean, I guess if you just ignore all this, yeah, it's the Republican deniers lol...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYB6N8fBKQ&t=56s


I guess you also forget who let all the people that burned the cities down during the Floyd riots. Let me tell you this fun fact, it wasn't the Republican voting base.

This post was edited by Johnnydangerously on Apr 15 2025 12:11pm
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Apr 15 2025 12:10pm
I mean, I guess if you just ignore all this, yeah, it's the Republican deniers lol...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYB6N8fBKQ&t=56s


Again this is just a deflection. Even if I forfeit the Democrats are trash and complicit in slimy tactics it doesn't change anything I've said in this topic.

All Trump supporters can do on this subject is cry fake news or point out something bad the Democrats did. I didn't vote Democrat. Biden or Harris. I am not defending the Democrats. I'm just using them as an example to show the inconsistency of Trump supporters ideology.
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Apr 15 2025 12:13pm
Again this is just a deflection. Even if I forfeit the Democrats are trash and complicit in slimy tactics it doesn't change anything I've said in this topic.

All Trump supporters can do on this subject is cry fake news or point out something bad the Democrats did. I didn't vote Democrat. Biden or Harris. I am not defending the Democrats. I'm just using them as an example to show the inconsistency of Trump supporters ideology.


I get the "whataboutism" of things, but how am I suppose to deny what I witnessed with my own eyes???? I mean if you think inconsistency applies only to the right, I have a bridge you might be interested in buying.

Edit: Things such as Joe Biden is in great shape/health 24 hours a day on the left leaning media, which by the way has a stronghold on where the news comes from. You don't have to believe me, you can see for yourself. You can throw in most of the major newspapers as well

https://adfontesmedia.com/media-bias-chart-jan-2024/

So on the left we only have CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS. The Times, WAPO, Google, Facebook, NYT, Bloomberg, etc.

The right has Fox and now X, which X was running cover for Biden in 2020 under Dorsey.

The point of this is, where do you or most people get their news from? If you're watching 90% of the mainstream media you're getting "Trump is Hitler" news. No wonder why so many uninformed (not saying you) can't understand this. I mean I totally understand FOX is heavily right, but I take what they say with a grain of salt.



I truly believe the media is the biggest problem in the USA. Their job was to watch over us, now they in the pockets of the political parties. I can only find reall truth if I decide to search for hours on stories.

This post was edited by Johnnydangerously on Apr 15 2025 12:31pm
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