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Apr 14 2025 02:43pm
And if he is found guilty of actually being involved with ms-13 how will you respond?


You have to do that before you kill the people, how is that not clear to you?
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Apr 14 2025 02:46pm
A clear majority of Americans don't want illegals in the country. It's not controversial. Trump was democratically elected on a mandate to remove illegals from the country. Judges are unelected.

Trump should change the law through congress and deport them that way. But he probably also made a reasonable assertion that it would take years to do that, and in the space of 4 years it would be impossible to go through the entire legal process AND deport a good chunk of illegals.
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Apr 14 2025 02:46pm
You have to do that before you kill the people, how is that not clear to you?


What source are you looking at that is proving he is decreased?

If the government is 100% convinced he is a terrorist I'll be curious to see the evidence.

If no evidence arises then yes, everything that has occurred would be an issue.

Your thread is very premature as you don't have any evidence to go towards any of your claims.

You don't know for sure if he is alive or dead.
You also don't know for sure if he is a terrorist or not.

We all will in fact, find out. So we should all just watch patiently as it unravels.
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Apr 14 2025 02:48pm
Luckily I have the fitting poem:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Californians, and I did speak out—
And asked them: you sure you got all tbe Californians?

Then they came for me—and i had my guns to blow their fucking heads off.


Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not an American name.

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What source are you looking at that is proving he is decreased?

If the government is 100% convinced he is a terrorist I'll be curious to see the evidence.

If no evidence arises then yes, everything that has occurred would be an issue.

Your thread is very premature as you don't have any evidence to go towards any of your claims.

You don't know for sure if he is alive or dead.
You also don't know for sure if he is a terrorist or not.

We all will in fact, find out. So we should all just watch patiently as it unravels.


We do know his last status was "protected from deportation"? That is so obvious even the white house did not try to sweep it under the rug and instead admitted the error.

You should not wait patiently if your president defies the judicial and legislative branch, unless you are happy to live in a dictatorship.

While I do not for sure know if he is dead already, given the information now he is not comming back. If he comes back unharmed, the screw up was much less severe than straight up killing him but it then still happened and there still needs to be consequences.

I want to reiterate: it does not matter if he turns out to be a terrorist or not in the future. You need to follow the laws, even if you personally think somebody deserved what they got. When they deported him all he was was "protected from deportation".
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Apr 14 2025 02:55pm
In accordance with the law, yes. If the rule of law doesn't protect everybody, it protects nobody. Luckily I have the fitting poem:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


they came for the j6ers and fraud lefties didnt say chit
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Apr 14 2025 02:57pm
We do know his last status was "protected from deportation"? That is so obvious even the white house did not try to sweep it under the rug and instead admitted the error.

You should not wait patiently if your president defies the judicial and legislative branch, unless you are happy to live in a dictatorship.

While I do not for sure know if he is dead already, given the information now he is not comming back. If he comes back unharmed, the screw up was much less severe than straight up killing him but it then still happened and there still needs to be consequences.

I want to reiterate: it does not matter if he turns out to be a terrorist or not in the future. You need to follow the laws, even if you personally think somebody deserved what they got. When they deported him all he was was "protected from deportation".


We don't negotiate with terrorists.

If he is a terrorist I'm 100% fine with the immediate removal of him from the country.

Again, your thread is premature as you don't have any facts to back any of your claims right now other than the fact he was deported as a legal citizen of Maryland.

If he turns out to not be a terrorist I will not be okay with the steps taken, but I'll have faith that they have concrete evidence that he is affiliated with the gang.

The party you are behind are the reasons why our state of illegal immigration is the way it is. So I'm okay with a firm and efficient process taking place for illegals and terrorists.

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We don't negotiate with terrorists.

If he is a terrorist I'm 100% fine with the immediate removal of him from the country.

Again, your thread is premature as you don't have any facts to back any of your claims right now other than the fact he was deported as a legal citizen of Maryland.

If he turns out to not be a terrorist I will not be okay with the steps taken, but I'll have faith that they have concrete evidence that he is affiliated with the gang.

The party you are behind are the reasons why our state of illegal immigration is the way it is. So I'm okay with a firm and efficient process taking place for illegals and terrorists.


I am german, the party I am behind is probably less pro immigration than democrats are. But what they do is follow the law to a T, we learned the hard way what happens if one person decides who gets deported 90 years ago.

You need to have the law on your side before you act, that is just how time works. You can't deport people (very likely killing them).and then later decide if it was right by law, that is absolutely insane.
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Apr 14 2025 03:05pm
Innocent people getting deported to their death is a problem, even if it is only one currently. One could argue that deporting non innocent people to their death might not be wise either but that is a different discussion I suppose.

Bolded: he did not get ruled on by a court, his last ruling was that he is protected. For all intents and purposes there was no right to deport him, same way there is no right to deport you. You might think you are safe bc of your skin color or your red hat or whatever you might believe in, the truth is if the courts do not protect you nothing does and you are the whim of dear leader Trump.

Also 50 million is apparently off by around 40 million, so good job on that


there it is its the "muh racism" card what this thread is really about



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Apr 14 2025 03:08pm
I am german, the party I am behind is probably less pro immigration than democrats are. But what they do is follow the law to a T, we learned the hard way what happens if one person decides who gets deported 90 years ago.

You need to have the law on your side before you act, that is just how time works. You can't deport people (very likely killing them).and then later decide if it was right by law, that is absolutely insane.


Idk why you feel the need for the government to cater to your need of media attention prior to them acting upon a terrorist. It's almost as of you'd rather see the news say, "we have evidence that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a terrorist with the gang ms-13 so now that you are aware of that fact we will now go and pick him up". Which would be stupid for them to show the world their evidence first before acting on it.

Again, you do not know for sure if he is a terrorist or not and if he is it's literally disgusting you care more about them taking a process rather doing what's best for the safety of our country and its citizens.
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