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They'll be marched up north and still be muttering to themselves that they're winning

These people are lost and have nothing positive left in them


I purposely tune in to liberal media now and then just to see if jsp is more liberal than the average liberal. 99% of the time they are and then the same goofballs claim to be neutral, independent or libertarian.

No one is falling for that nonsense. If they want to say Clinton was a good middle of the road democrat fine… I can accept that but to sit here and pretend Biden was even slightly more competent than Trump is nonsense.
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It’s far from over but I don’t see it prevailing in the end. Trump isn’t going to win this trade war with China. They’re far less reliable on others.

We import 4x more from them than we export to them.

If he keeps the tariffs in place the only person that’s going to lose is the average consumer as he wants everything manufactured in the US. Who’s going to end up paying the factory workers the wage gap it takes to make it in said country vs what it would cost to make it stateside. The consumer.


On the one hand the consumer will pay more.
Hovewer outsourcing your production and manufacturing to a rival country is a risky strategy.
And the negative balance/increasing debt is also risky. It makes USA dependent on others will. And lets not forget China aint democratic.
So sometimes you need to give up a little of your wealth to be Independent, to be safe.

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On the one hand the consumer will pay more.
Hovewer outsourcing your production and manufacturing to a rival country is a risky strategy.
And the negative balance/increasing debt is also risky. It makes USA dependent on others will. And lets not forget China aint democratic.
So sometimes you need to give up a little of your wealth to be Independent, to be safe.


Bingo…


Nobody can seem to recognize some short term sacrifice For cheap Chinese plastic crap and overpriced unfashionable Nike apparel made from synthetic material for goodness sakes… is better for long term self dependence and not being dependent economically on a genocidal community regime

Lmao how am I part of a species that can’t realize that
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Bingo…


Nobody can seem to recognize some short term sacrifice For cheap Chinese plastic crap and overpriced unfashionable Nike apparel made from synthetic material for goodness sakes… is better for long term self dependence and not being dependent economically on a genocidal community regime

Lmao how am I part of a species that can’t realize that


USA have been doing that since the late 70s and 80s this is nothing new when they shifted jobs out and killed the manufacturing and blue collar jobs in USA.
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On the one hand the consumer will pay more.
Hovewer outsourcing your production and manufacturing to a rival country is a risky strategy.
And the negative balance/increasing debt is also risky. It makes USA dependent on others will. And lets not forget China aint democratic.
So sometimes you need to give up a little of your wealth to be Independent, to be safe.


Fuck, seriously you have CDS and RDS to a point it is obsessive.
The US do not give a shit about whether you are democratic or not if you are under their control.

If the Chinese allow US troops to be in their country like Japan or South Korea and be used as a bulwark against the Russians, the CCP will be considered a beacon of the free world.
You need to have some critical thinking seriously.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 10 2025 05:14am
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USA has a 3-4% unemployment rate and high working/living costs. It's impossible to produce most of the stuff yourself. If a certain sector is crucial for your suvival nobody stops you from setting up production yourself. (Should be automatized mainly)
Tarrifs for those sectors also make sense then. You could also devide your purchases on more than one country to be more save.
But this shit is just uncoordinated nonsense.

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Anyone who said NO should just watch the news. For real even liberal media is touting the fact over 60 countries are talking with the administration to change trade agreements.

It’s like JSPers live under a rock.

That was his GOAL. That is a W whether the redditers on jsp agree or not.

(JSP is one of the few places that Trump could do EXACTLY what he said and they’d say “Naw that’s an L”)


Except most of these countries barely charged tariffs to begin with and the goal of the tariffs wasn’t actually to renegotiate tariff rates. It was to bring back manufacturing and production of goods to the US. Which won’t happen.

We won’t know what the final agreements will be, but based on trumps past history negotiating these things it’ll likely end up back almost where things started. They’ll likely drop the reciprocal tariffs, trump will claim a great fake victory because “tariff rates were dropped”, meanwhile we’ll have pissed off the world, they’ll be less likely to trust us, know he’ll blink in the future too and we’ll have seen some amount of harm to the economy and growth.

As always, let’s see what things look like in the end, but this is where most of these things under trump go. Disruption, some short term damage, failure to anccomplish long term goals, eroding of trust on the global scale and fake claims of “wins” to the Fox News contingent.

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Except most of these countries barely charged tariffs to begin with and the goal of the tariffs wasn’t actually to renegotiate tariff rates. It was to bring back manufacturing and production of goods to the US. Which won’t happen.

We won’t know what the final agreements will be, but based on trumps past history negotiating these things it’ll likely end up back almost where things started. They’ll likely drop the reciprocal tariffs, trump will claim a great fake victory because “tariff rates were dropped”, meanwhile we’ll have pissed off the world, they’ll be less likely to trust us, know he’ll blink in the future too and we’ll have seen some amount of harm to the economy and growth.

As always, let’s see what things look like in the end, but this is where most of these things under trump go. Disruption, some short term damage, failure to anccomplish long term goals, eroding of trust on the global scale and fake claims of “wins” to the Fox News contingent.


This did not live up…

Private services up 2.4% and private goods up 2.3% both climbing both based on business investments (projected to be up at least 3.4% on the year) IN THE US.

Even at these low % if they increase this way over the next 4 years you would see a considerable increase of US goods on shelves.
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