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Apr 6 2025 02:34pm
The United States has a higher age dependency ratio than China does. With the US at 53% and China at 44%.

https://genderdata.worldbank.org/en/indicator/sp-pop-dpnd

They also both have a fertility rate of 1.7. With China having a slightly higher increase than the US's increase over the last 4 years.


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https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/fertility-rate#:~:text=The%20fertility%20rate%20for%20U.S.,a%200.06%25%20increase%20from%202021

China
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/CHN/china/fertility-rate


You're working with incorrect data. China's fertility rate is not 1.7. It's closer to 1.2 as a country, and below 1 in many of their coastal industrial/economic core. The 1 child policy and its tendency to promote female infanticide among other factors also put in some data extremes in their charts. and China's demographic chart is wacky while America's is more consistent, plus America has significantly more immigration. https://asiatimes.com/2024/07/chinas-demographics-arent-a-short-term-problem/#
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You're working with incorrect data. China's fertility rate is not 1.7. It's closer to 1.2 as a country, and below 1 in many of their coastal industrial/economic core. The 1 child policy and its tendency to promote female infanticide among other factors also put in some data extremes in their charts. and China's demographic chart is wacky while America's is more consistent, plus America has significantly more immigration. https://asiatimes.com/2024/07/chinas-demographics-arent-a-short-term-problem/#


China's 1-child policy overpopulated their country with men, who were selected as the child. This was folly, as Chinese women tend to be more interested in white men, thus their male population is forced to get with Indian or other women resulting in cultural destruction

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China's 1-child policy overpopulated their country with men, who were selected as the child. This was folly, as Chinese women tend to be more interested in white men, thus their male population is forced to get with Indian or other women resulting in cultural destruction


Bro just a very slight correction since things are slightly different now.

Chinese woman who migrated or moved to EU or North America will 90% prefer white men, especially those that are second or 3rd generation.

Between the opening up of China from 1980 up till the mid 2000s and early 2011 or 2012. The amount of Chinese woman going after the American dream or EU dream and local China Chinese who prefer white man are as high as 90 to 95%.
The reason is very straightforward because the country was kinda poor and the memories of the communist repression is still extremely fresh given the fact that their parents suffered a lot too.

So what you said is without a doubt 100% true for that period.

And this is not just China, even Hong Kong which is extremely wealthy, Hong Kong Chinese girls preferred white men (Canadians to be specific) :lol: .
Even Singapore from where I came from, English educated country with a majority of ethnic Chinese also prefer white boys.

My experience working in Shanghai for business trip and my experience in Hong Kong have shown me this.
When I was in night spots in Shanghai back in 2005 / 2006. The amount of Chinese girls surround white expats in their night life is immeasurable.

In Hong Kong , a famous night spot called Lan Kwai Fong back in the mid 2000s and mid 90s, the amount of HK Girls that surround white boys are ample as well.

Lets not talk about South East Asia, Philippines , Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand, the woman literally would bleed for white boys.

Fast forward to where we are now, the China Chinese, especially in Major Cities, Shanghai, Beijing, and the Shenzhen area, no longer prefer white boys.

There are those in Hong Kong who still does (prefer white boys), but they would prefer Japanese or Koreans rather than white boys due to Korea / Japanese soft power via media and entertainment.

And China boys seldom take Indian woman. Those from the really poor rural areas will probably just die off alone.
There is a huge influx of mix marriage between Chinese and Ukrainians / Russians though, these are actually quite well documented.

It is also quite difficult to destroy the Han culture although not impossible.

There was two major period where the Han Chinese was completely controlled by foreigners one was the Yuan Dynasty where the Mongols completely controlled China for a few hundred years ( But they were integrated and use Han language).

The second period was the Qing Dynasty ( Manchurians ), they also controlled the Chinese for a 3 to 400 years and they were also integrated and used Chinese language and writing system.

Last but not least China was also controlled semi conquered by 8 countries during the 2 opium wars but not completely namely by Britain, USA, Germany, Italy, Russia, Japan, France and Austria - Hungary Empire.
But they still kept their language and culture.

Most foreigners who marry in will have their original culture sinicized and not the other way round. Just like how migrants who migrated to the western hemisphere will get Americanized sooner than later.

The only possible cultural destruction that I can think of is if there is a radical religion (Islam) going in and taking over and destroying everything.
There is no such thing as never, but to culturally destroy China is quite difficult.

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Bro just a very slight correction since things are slightly different now.

Chinese woman who migrated or moved to EU or North America will 90% prefer white men, especially those that are second or 3rd generation.

Between the opening up of China from 1980 up till the mid 2000s and early 2011 or 2012. The amount of Chinese woman going after the American dream or EU dream and local China Chinese who prefer white man are as high as 90 to 95%.
The reason is very straightforward because the country was kinda poor and the memories of the communist repression is still extremely fresh given the fact that their parents suffered a lot too.

So what you said is without a doubt 100% true for that period.

And this is not just China, even Hong Kong which is extremely wealthy, Hong Kong Chinese girls preferred white men (Canadians to be specific) :lol: .
Even Singapore from where I came from, English educated country with a majority of ethnic Chinese also prefer white boys.

My experience working in Shanghai for business trip and my experience in Hong Kong have shown me this.
When I was in night spots in Shanghai back in 2005 / 2006. The amount of Chinese girls surround white expats in their night life is immeasurable.

In Hong Kong , a famous night spot called Lan Kwai Fong back in the mid 2000s and mid 90s, the amount of HK Girls that surround white boys are ample as well.

Lets not talk about South East Asia, Philippines , Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand, the woman literally would bleed for white boys.

Fast forward to where we are now, the China Chinese, especially in Major Cities, Shanghai, Beijing, and the Shenzhen area, no longer prefer white boys.

There are those in Hong Kong who still does (prefer white boys), but they would prefer Japanese or Koreans rather than white boys due to Korea / Japanese soft power via media and entertainment.

And China boys seldom take Indian woman. Those from the really poor rural areas will probably just die off alone.
There is a huge influx of mix marriage between Chinese and Ukrainians / Russians though, these are actually quite well documented.

It is also quite difficult to destroy the Han culture although not impossible.

There was two major period where the Han Chinese was completely controlled by foreigners one was the Yuan Dynasty where the Mongols completely controlled China for a few hundred years ( But they were integrated and use Han language).

The second period was the Qing Dynasty ( Manchurians ), they also controlled the Chinese for a 3 to 400 years and they were also integrated and used Chinese language and writing system.

Last but not least China was also controlled semi conquered by 8 countries during the 2 opium wars but not completely namely by Britain, USA, Germany, Italy, Russia, Japan, France and Austria - Hungary Empire.
But they still kept their language and culture.

Most foreigners who marry in will have their original culture sinicized and not the other way round. Just like how migrants who migrated to the western hemisphere will get Americanized sooner than later.

The only possible cultural destruction that I can think of is if there is a radical religion (Islam) going in and taking over and destroying everything.
There is no such thing as never, but to culturally destroy China is quite difficult.

:huh:


Cultural destruction was perhaps a harsh term

The Chinese are a great ancient resilient hard working people who gifted the world with martial arts. I think its their destiny to conquer the lands of India and expand their Imperial state, this is usually accomplished when the men don't have enough women in their own nation to have as wives, so they must conquer. They're surely powerful enough. They'll need to conquer to maintain their position
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Cultural destruction was perhaps a harsh term

The Chinese are a great ancient resilient hard working people who gifted the world with martial arts. I think its their destiny to conquer the lands of India and expand their Imperial state, this is usually accomplished when the men don't have enough women in their own nation to have as wives, so they must conquer. They're surely powerful enough. They'll need to conquer to maintain their position


They can't conquer India. Not that powerful to do that honestly.

Historically speaking, they almost never had any wars.

I also think the CCP are not concern about population decline, less mouths to feed to be honest.

The Han Chinese ambition if you look at history, revolves around the confucian belt, namely Korean peninsula, Japan and maybe North Vietnam.

Taiwan wasn't even a thing until mid 1800s.

The natives of Taiwan actually belong to the Philippines, Malaysia racial groups. Whatever you see in Taiwan now are basically Han Chinese invaders who fights against a different political ideology from the mainland.

The Chinese do not have much luck if they invade other countries especially the size of India.

If there is a war between both countries , they will just nuke each other and just be done with that.

They are having problems taking care of their own, no way they are willing to invade India and get another 1 billion headache whose, language, race, skin colour is completely different.
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Apr 7 2025 02:29pm
WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump on Monday threatened imposing an additional 50% tariff on imports from China if Beijing does not with withdraw its retaliatory tariffs on U.S. exports, doubling down on a trade policy that has sent markets plunging.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/07/trump-china-50-percent-tariffs/82976456007/
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Apr 8 2025 03:07am
EU also responded to tariffs, by publishing 67 pages document.

Reading such a long document is a punishment already.

If things go wild EU might escalate and write even longer document.
Not sure if USA can make it through 200 pages document, that would be cruel move from EU.
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Apr 8 2025 05:48am
EU also responded to tariffs, by publishing 67 pages document.

Reading such a long document is a punishment already.

If things go wild EU might escalate and write even longer document.
Not sure if USA can make it through 200 pages document, that would be cruel move from EU.


I can report 🥭 and his goons are not reading anything, when they pardoned the Jan 6th terrorist they gave up trying to read through each conviction to see who was a serious terrorist or baby terrorist cause it was too much paperwork.

I promise you no one from the Trump admin is reading any e.u. tarrif docs they will go on x and read headlines.
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Apr 9 2025 05:49am
China slaps retaliatory tariffs of 84% on U.S. goods in response to Trump.

Now its Trump turn. He is already at 104%, will he increase it in response to China move?
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Apr 9 2025 05:56am
China slaps retaliatory tariffs of 84% on U.S. goods in response to Trump.

Now its Trump turn. He is already at 104%, will he increase it in response to China move?


My 5 fg he raises it another 50%
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