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Apr 1 2025 01:31am
Tf? Please provide a source for that.
It cant be some schizo video of some white college kid trying their best to get hired onto Fox News like post #1
I can kind of see where you're coming from but still.


Yeah I could explain it, but you need to first understand statutory construction, that the term 'Includes' when used to define something in law, is either used in an Expansive sense expanding upon a previous definition, or an Inclusive sense, meaning the whole thing, unless expanded upon elsewhere in the law.
The government essentially asks you to believe in 26 U.S.C. 7701 (a)(26) that their definitions define absolutely nothing when they lie about the term that expands upon nothing.
But if you look back at the first two implementations of the Income Tax, which were challenged and defeated by Federal Judges, you get to why the Term for Trade or Business became Public Office, because that was what the objecting party challenging them were officers of the federal judiciary itself.
If you look at a copy of the constitution from years ago, when an amendment is made it actually changes the language of the constitution and gives a footnote.
But the 16th amendment doesn't do this at all, at best you get a footnote that just says "See 16th amendment" that's because all the 16th amendment did was create an object in their jurisdiction that they could tax directly, a Public Office.
The term 'Individual' is defined nowhere in federal law unless it is accompanied by a legal entity that is incorporated like a partnership, trust, or corporation, something completely separate from what you would agree to when asked if you were an individual.
I'd really be better off pointing you to a 180 page book that briefly goes over all of this, and you can decide if you want to look more into it, or if you are Canadian you can find if there are societies of non-taxpayers in canada who have things applicable to your country.
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Apr 1 2025 02:10am
And if Socialism is so bad then why does it work in many European countries?


Most countries in Europe are not socialist, they do have a lot of social programs though. Americans often confuse the two concepts, the European social model typically includes universal healthcare, free higher education, strong labor protections, and welfare programs but the countries operate within a capitalist framework.
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Apr 1 2025 03:28am
It's too late, we've got corporate socialism in the US deeply rooted. Get into the corporate ranks at a fortune 500 for example, then you'll be offered a social benefit platter like an hourly peon could never dream of. Get PK'd as the CEO, then observe law enforcement clear heaven and earth to find the criminal.

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Apr 1 2025 10:40am
Guy uses a severely corrupt country with a recent history of self appointed authoritarians as an example of why socialism is bad.
Plus the US government has been interfering with Venezuelan politics for decades anyways. Bad take.

And theres like only two socialists in the US government? Sanders being one
Most of congress and the senate is either center, center-right or far right.
And if Socialism is so bad then why does it work in many European countries?

Whats your solution then?
60% of Americans are facing poverty
The wealthy continue to consolidate wealth and make every day purchases more and more expensive
Donald Trump's tariffs will not help the US economy. They will only result in the buck being passed to you
Musk and Trump will continue to rollback hard fought rights by US citizens and workers

The far right isnt your friend unless you make 7 figures or more a year

You dont seem like you know that the US is a mixed economy and not socialist.
To be clear. I am not defending socialism. It works in some places and not in others.
Just questioning your foggy goggles.


100% incorrect. It is an excellent example of socialism’s failure. But Venezuela isn’t the only example.

The socialists can call themselves whatever they want to disguise their true motives. The fact is that the democrats are creating the policies.They are pushing the socialist agenda. And it isn’t only about economy. These socialists are a syndicate that stretches from the U.S to Canada to South America to Europe to China. It isn’t a conspiracy theory. It is conspiracy fact.
They are deliberately destroying countries and usurping their power. They have created policies to cater to mass illegal migration to further their agenda. And also they have been pushing f*ggot agendas to further their interests. Why? Because they are those f*ggot agendas. They live them.
Obama’s wife is a dude and Macron’s wife is a dude. The American people don’t want it. And the European people don’t want it. But the media is going to censor them and always make it look like socialism works. But in reality, for working class people, it does not.

My solution? Obviously, I implied it.

America can do all the right moves to bring itself out of the hole.
But it don’t mean shit as long as the enemy is still there to put us back,


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Apr 2 2025 04:37am
Guy uses a severely corrupt country with a recent history of self appointed authoritarians as an example of why socialism is bad.
Plus the US government has been interfering with Venezuelan politics for decades anyways. Bad take.

And theres like only two socialists in the US government? Sanders being one
Most of congress and the senate is either center, center-right or far right.
And if Socialism is so bad then why does it work in many European countries?

Whats your solution then?
60% of Americans are facing poverty
The wealthy continue to consolidate wealth and make every day purchases more and more expensive
Donald Trump's tariffs will not help the US economy. They will only result in the buck being passed to you
Musk and Trump will continue to rollback hard fought rights by US citizens and workers

The far right isnt your friend unless you make 7 figures or more a year

You dont seem like you know that the US is a mixed economy and not socialist.
To be clear. I am not defending socialism. It works in some places and not in others.
Just questioning your foggy goggles.


Socialism works for European countries previously aka The Scandinavians because they were at least 90% homogeneous.
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Apr 2 2025 04:38am
100% incorrect. It is an excellent example of socialism’s failure. But Venezuela isn’t the only example.

The socialists can call themselves whatever they want to disguise their true motives. The fact is that the democrats are creating the policies.They are pushing the socialist agenda. And it isn’t only about economy. These socialists are a syndicate that stretches from the U.S to Canada to South America to Europe to China. It isn’t a conspiracy theory. It is conspiracy fact.
They are deliberately destroying countries and usurping their power. They have created policies to cater to mass illegal migration to further their agenda. And also they have been pushing f*ggot agendas to further their interests. Why? Because they are those f*ggot agendas. They live them.
Obama’s wife is a dude and Macron’s wife is a dude. The American people don’t want it. And the European people don’t want it. But the media is going to censor them and always make it look like socialism works. But in reality, for working class people, it does not.

My solution? Obviously, I implied it.

America can do all the right moves to bring itself out of the hole.
But it don’t mean shit as long as the enemy is still there to put us back,


Who created communism?
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Apr 2 2025 04:45am
The average inner city school in my state gets $21k per student and has 33% math proficiency 42% reading. The average person under poverty income receives about $83k in benefits when combining means tested benefits and direct benefits like education

Thats as far from socialist as you can get?


we just need to send them more money goom
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Apr 6 2025 11:38am
The average inner city school in my state gets $21k per student and has 33% math proficiency 42% reading. The average person under poverty income receives about $83k in benefits when combining means tested benefits and direct benefits like education

Thats as far from socialist as you can get?


I don’t think most would associate public primary education to be a great example of “socialist” agenda, at least in our current political landscape. Any first world nation must be collectively educated to some degree in order to be governed successfully.

What is your proposed solution? It’s more expensive to educate inner city kids living in poverty.

This post was edited by Tocino on Apr 6 2025 11:42am
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Apr 6 2025 12:00pm
I'm fine with people talking about socialism.

The main problem I have is not understanding economics. The average socialism-supporter would want all billionaires taxed 60%.

That type of policy would cripple the economy, especially for the poor.
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Apr 6 2025 12:03pm
I don’t think most would associate public primary education to be a great example of “socialist” agenda, at least in our current political landscape. Any first world nation must be collectively educated to some degree in order to be governed successfully.

What is your proposed solution? It’s more expensive to educate inner city kids living in poverty.


Socialized education only began opt-in for northern states in the post civil war, only became compulsory across most of america by the turn of the century and mississipi was the last to require it- only starting with elementary school- in 1918. It mirrored the beginnings of our social state pre new deal. For the majority of our nation's history, there was no collective education mandate nor public expense to see it done. Its a good example of pooling taxes for the common good in a direct social benefit.
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