I think saying "hey come to the table and let's talk" is a great way to say "hey come to the table and let's talk". What happened today is a diplomatic equivalent of

Well yes but we are talking about Trump(He isn’t normal and possibly not sane). To be clear I agree with a lot of Trump’s ideas/opinions… the way he IMPLEMENTS his plans are absolutely absurd though.

i am the grim reaper, i stopped eating food in an attempt to lose weight. i only eat jobs now, and ive gained 40 lbs.

How is the navy related to trade and economics? Is war your plan for securing resources?

It's very simple, the US cannot compete with the rest of the world long term if they fully isolate. This tariff play assumes that the US is in such a strong position that other countries will give up before the US does. If other countries do not cave, then US citizens will suffer

I remember the supervisor at the ice cream factory could literally crank the belt speed up to 3x regular and run all the lines once. Would have to unplug shit to slow it. They could even restart systems from behind walls that crush you to death. Lock that shit out

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Apr 4 2025 01:19pm

Trade is conducted overseas dumdum. Overland transport is extremely inefficient

I just iterated: no one can challenge the US Navy. So America's position is pretty damn strong, unless those other nations can poop out functional aircraft carriers

This post was edited by El1te on Apr 4 2025 01:23pm

Secure shipping lanes are beneficial for all nations. If US went isolationist, then these routes are subject to pirating unless another nation takes the security burden. World can't global trade without secure trade lines

As for resources, US is rich in almost all precious resources. Our industry is not positioned to extract and refine at scale, but it's there to build into if needed.

Agree on the suffering, going to be some pain.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Apr 4 2025 01:26pm

Exactly, these other nations shouldn't forget that they are simply US vassals: they are wholly dependent on American military might for both their own security and the security of their own shipping lanes.

Military doesn't solve your trade/economic issues. You're talking about protecting existing trade, which means other countries maybe need to invest more in military without the US, which is irrelevant to what I'm saying

It doesn't change the fact that the US will lose if they isolate forever. The entire strategy hinges on the idea that the US will isolate until other countries give up concessions, then the US will stop isolating

oh god that sounds wild, ive seen some crazy shit on the road as well. plant managers can be a menace.



if the USA said that we're no longer going to patrol the ocean and secure shipping lanes world trade would literally, yes i said literally, shut down tomorrow. it would take years to start up again. most people are entirely ignorant of how much global trade depends on the US navy, its simply cannot function without it.