Quote (womkeith @ Apr 3 2025 09:09pm)

Damn, mass layoffs already began.

I’m not worried, our fearless leader is golfing at Mar-o-Lago with Saudi Arabians.

I’m sure he has a beautiful plan to get us out of this mess he created.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Apr 3 2025 09:14pm)

Gale Force wind of fear strikes the markets.

Quote (Bruv @ Apr 3 2025 03:13pm)

Tarriffs only hurt 401k portfolios and the workers
They are a smokescreen at best and the one that comes out are the top earners

Corp A buys units at $100 each
The tarriffs apply a $25 per charge to each unit payable by Corp A

Corp A goes to Corp B and asks them to sell the units at $85
Corp B agrees to this since they were able to get better prices from the manufacturer. Neither the distributor or manufacturer can afford to lose the business.

Corp A now pays 25% on $85 instead of $100
Corp A however plays the victim and tells everyone they are still having to pay $125 per unit. Instead of selling the units at $213 they sell them to the public at $250. Their margins are increased.


However they don't have to report this. All you see if their final balance sheet and final income statement. They can make whatever margin they want and don't have to disclose it

Corp A continues to import and no new American jobs are created.
The money paid to the US Gov is less than anticipated.
This is the true grift

Quote (Mondain @ Apr 3 2025 04:55pm)

September 6th, 2024

Dow was 40,000
Today Dow is 40,000

But today the left is beating it's drum because it's not in power.

come on, do better.

e1 - proof
e2 - Nov 26th 2022, it was under 30,000
https://i.imgur.com/t9FtuNS.png

It's not the end of the world,
it's an opportunity for those of the left to beat their drum.

Like everything in the money world, this is an adjustment period.

Quote (chickenhawk71 @ Apr 3 2025 09:25pm)

What makes you think this is the bottom?

Bear market just started.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Apr 3 2025 03:21pm)

In your example, if you pressure the constraints more there is a pivot where Corp A can't sell units at said price point and quality. If Corp B drops price to $50 a unit, they are losing money or the product is compromised on quality. Corp B may be able to lose money for a while to dominate a market, but not if the levers are pressured enough.

Either way, speculative. Or perhaps some boundary conditions is hit and everything collapses

Quote (Bruv @ Apr 3 2025 04:47pm)

It's going to collapse anyways.
The American public is still reeling financially from covid.

These tarriffs will only strengthen China's world position and lead America into a depression.

Worst case scenario it's another 2008 situation but the companies don't get bailed out again (That would be really really bad)