You’re angry — I get it. But anger doesn’t rewrite history.
You’re fixated on victimhood, not nationhood. The idea of a Palestinian state is a modern political construct, not an ancient reality. There has never been a sovereign country called “Palestine” with defined borders, currency, or government — not in antiquity, not under the Ottomans, not under the British, and not today.

Yes, the word “Palestine” existed — but let’s be precise. The Romans coined Syria Palaestina in 135 CE after crushing a Jewish revolt. It wasn’t used to define a nation or people. It was a colonial rebranding, meant to erase “Judea” from the map. So you’re right — the name is old. But it was never the name of a sovereign Arab state.

You accuse me of “denying existence” — but it’s not denying a people’s humanity to ask where their historical state was. Jews, unlike “Palestinians,” have thousands of years of unbroken ties to one land: Judea, Israel, call it what you will — it’s the same homeland.

If quoting you exposes contradictions, that’s not “throwing toys.” That’s holding you accountable for weak arguments. You’re angry because the facts don’t bend your way.

Lastly, you talk about respect. Respect is earned through truth, clarity, and intellectual honesty. Not from rage-posting or repeating slogans.

So if you’re going to accuse me of lying — bring facts, not feelings. Because every time this conversation comes down to evidence, you disappear behind slogans and fury.

I don’t need to shout to win a debate. I just need the truth — and history is on my side.

can I tag someone else in? all the information is in the last 20 posts.

Tag whoever you like — it won’t change the fact that you don’t understand the conflict or its historical roots.

lets look at the rape incident by the prison guards. was it rape yes or no.
(feel free to ask a question but the caveat being you answer my question).

can I tag someone else in? all the information is in the last 20 posts. ill compile it here:

(repeatedly denied the rape occurred. When someone walked him through the definition and facts, he appeared to finally agree and deflect. When i sought clarification he denied it again!!!)

(repeatedly denying what aerial photo's and the ever increasing body count tells us - Israel is killing men, women and children)

There is a word for this. its called Collective Punishment.

do i have to keep going ? i dont have all night here, but i can get 10-20 more of these statements from your quotes over this thread.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 02:18pm

No interest in Syria you say?



https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1907505665507209425?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

If Israel has no interest in Syria then why are they stealing Syrian land and bombing Syria ? are they at war with Syria? sure feels like an act of war to annex land and bomb the country...

NO ITS OK, ISRAEL HAS NO INTEREST IN SYRIA, THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE APPARENTLY.

The simplest way of me to describe you is as follows: You strongly support the complete eradication of Hamas (by any means - which is actually a fueling the radicalization and increased Hamas's appeal among certain groups). You do not appear capable of differentiating between Palestinian civilians and combatants, and fail to understand that this conflict will fuel a major backlash within the next 10 years, if history is anything to go by. You refers to Palestinians as 'Hamapalestinians' and do not recognize their national identity or claims to rights. You do not view Israeli actions in the war or in the West Bank as problematic and you support both Israeli expansion abroad and Jewish settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank. When confronted with allegations of Israeli government or military misconduct, you dismiss or deflect the accusations. You rarely if ever concede a point and are more prone to deflecting or simple not answering responses to your posts after users have highlighted gaps in your rationale / logic. Finally you accuse others of the things you do.

This is a direct response to your attack against me. I am happy to provide (YOUR) quotes to support my statement.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 02:38pm

You’re clearly trying to trap me with loaded language and selective quotes, so let’s clear this up once and for all.

1.I never denied the incident occurred I said there is no verified evidence that a rape was committed by IDF soldiers against a Hamas Nukhba fighter, which is the original claim.
You’re now shifting the goalposts to a different case, involving a detainee and vague medical notes. That’s called deflection.
2.You keep repeating “rape” like a headline, but what you’re calling “rape” is based on an unverified report, where:
• No perpetrator was named.
• No investigation has confirmed who was responsible.
• Even the doctor initially blamed prisoners, and then later claimed pressure, without proving who inserted the object.
That’s not “walking someone through the facts” it’s building a narrative on ambiguity.

3.You’re not interested in the truth you’re interested in making an accusation stick, regardless of context, clarity, or confirmed evidence. That’s not justice. That’s propaganda.

4.You want to “tag people in”? Be my guest. A thousand tags won’t turn speculation into fact.

So here’s my final answer:
If a crime was committed, it should be investigated and punished regardless of who did it. But twisting vague, conflicting details into a political weapon doesn’t serve justice. It serves your agenda.

If you’re done spinning stories and ready to deal with verified facts and history I’m right here. Otherwise, enjoy the echo chamber.






You’re quoting me accurately, but misrepresenting what I said and that’s exactly the kind of manipulation that poisons any honest conversation.

I said we are not targeting women and children and that’s true.
There’s a world of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and the tragic reality of civilian deaths in urban warfare, especially when Hamas embeds itself among civilians, hospitals, schools, and mosques.

You’re pointing to body counts and aerial photos but leaving out context:
Hamas fires rockets from densely populated areas.
Hamas intentionally puts civilians in harm’s way to create optics like the ones you’re quoting.
Civilian casualties are not proof of intent they’re a tragic consequence of Hamas’s war tactics.

The IDF uses warnings, leaflets, phone calls, and evacuations no other military does more to avoid civilian harm under fire.
If Israel were “targeting” women and children, the numbers would be far higher.

You’re not citing facts you’re citing emotional visuals divorced from reality, while ignoring the Hamas charter calling for genocide and the massacre of Israeli civilians on October 7.

So no quoting me out of context doesn’t make your argument stronger. It just shows you’re not here for truth.





Go ahead quote me 20 more times. I stand by every word, because I speak from the reality we live in not from moral high ground that collapses under its own hypocrisy.


“Collective punishment” implies indiscriminate harm for the sake of cruelty. What I said is very different:
Pressure not punishment. I want our hostages returned, and I’m prepared to use every non-lethal means possible to achieve that. Water, food, fuel those aren’t weapons. Hamas made them bargaining chips.

You’re lecturing me on “collective punishment,” yet ignoring the collective hostage-taking of over 200 civilians women, children, elderly held without access to the Red Cross, food, or medicine.

If Hamas uses civilians as shields, and hides in tunnels under hospitals while hoarding aid who is really punishing the Palestinian people? It’s not Israel. It’s their own leadership.

“My people before theirs” isn’t controversial it’s human. Every leader prioritizes their own civilians. You just don’t like it when Israelis say it out loud.

So yes keep quoting me. Because the more you do, the clearer it becomes:
I’m defending my people. You’re defending their captors.

There is too much there for me to respond to. you can pick one and ill respond today, or ill respond in full tomorrow. ill try briefly.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 02:39pm

That was quite the paragraph impressive word count, zero substance 🤦

You say I “don’t differentiate between civilians and combatants” yet I’m the one condemning Hamas for hiding behind civilians, while you turn a blind eye to their war crimes.
You claim I don’t “recognize Palestinian identity” but the irony is, it was their own leadership that erased every chance of statehood: rejecting partition, launching wars, glorifying terrorism, and turning Gaza into a launchpad, not a homeland.
You say I “don’t concede points” maybe because you haven’t made any.
Instead of evidence, you offer moral monologues, emotional projections, and copy-paste slogans. That’s not debate that’s a joke
As for “accusing others of what I do” you’ve just spent an entire message doing that exact thing:
Projecting deflection, denial, and bad faith while pretending it’s a mirror.
You say you’re happy to provide my quotes? Please do. I stand by them because they’re built on facts, history, and clarity, not victim cosplay and Twitter virtue signals.

So if this was your “direct response,” you’ve just confirmed what I already knew:
You’re not debating me you’re describing how badly you lost

where in this thread has anyone turned a blind eye to Hamas LOL !? oh man, keep going ill respond in full tomorrow.