at least now your not making deflections - you are laying claim to the region.

Stating facts is not deflections unless the other side cant handle the facts

Well not sure now



kinda hard to believe this "fact". collective punishment is targeting everyone.



more "facts" from the master of facts. starve them all you said.



oh really



more "facts"

I think we need a fact checker here. This is only from a few of your posts, should i keep going ??

Nice deflecting

1. War is a collective punishment

2. You are mixing opinion with facts

3. We left gaza in 2005

4.we didnt expand to Judea and Samaria we took it from jordan after they attacked

This post was edited by Many_Names on Apr 1 2025 11:26am

Channel 14 Israel.

A large-scale attack on Iran will soon begin, an attack unprecedented since World War II.
https://x.com/Currentreport1/status/1907087961281171502

Cant find the article though

lets look at this shall we!

you said: Stating facts is not deflections unless the other side cant handle the facts.

Mirror, meet Many_names

You have been caught repeatedly LYING. If you cant watch your words, you should type less. all you are doing is showing that you are a liar who cannot debate or discuss in good faith.
all of the evidence is in the last 10 posts.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 08:17am

Deflecting again

This post was edited by Many_Names on Apr 2 2025 10:08am

Train of Events:

1. I was debating with Elite.
2. You hijacked/interrupted/interjected into the conversation, claiming there was no one in the West Bank, and even if there were, you didnt do anything to them, these imaginary people did it to themselves, after Israel occupied them. So you started this latest conversation with LIES upon LIES (bolded below).


Your mental gymnastics here are pretty cavalier. To make things simple we will call this your first lie.
(If Palestinians don’t exist, why did Zionist leaders in the early 1900s talk about dealing with the ‘Arab problem’ in Palestine? or even better So, the British, the Ottomans, the Romans, and even early Zionists all somehow ‘imagined’ the Arabs of Palestine? Must be the longest-running hallucination in history.)

3. I was surprised you did this, and I highlighted to another user that you just wont go away, repeatedly giving me cause to respond, to call out your lies.
4. I quoted you, where you said (Many_Names @ Mar 24 2025 10:28pm) The IDF do not target women and children.. [ This is your second lie - The sheer numbers of dead women and children speaks for itself ].
5. Next you said Israel recently stealing land is Syria's own fault
It is worth nothing that you previously (weeks ago) said Israel would not steal this land but weeks ago you also said stealing land by right of conquest is OK.

As part of this same post you said: My direct response is: This is you deflecting from the simple fact that there were people, or rather, to use your words, dogs, less then human, hamapalestinians, living in the area known as the West Bank. The fact that Jordan was previously in control of those people, is not relevant, but if you want to talk about that we can.

6. You continue to fixate on nationhood, or lack thereof, of the people living in the West Bank, and remember, you started the conversation saying there was no one actually living there!!! ( I see no reason to entertain semantic's re: In 1967, Israel fought Egypt, Syria, and Jordan in the Six-Day War. It captured the West Bank (from Jordan), Gaza (from Egypt), and East Jerusalem. These areas are considered occupied under international law, though Israel disputes this classification - the fact is people WERE living there at the time and Israel IS ethnically cleansing them ). The word Palestinian is irrelevant. "Israel" is ethnically cleansing the indigenous population.

7. I posted multiple quotes from you, all lies, from the start of this thread. easily proven by anyone based on historical facts.

--------------

On review of our conversation I am getting a better understanding of you. Because "Palestine" does not exist today, there are no Palestinians. Denying a people doesn’t erase history, Erasing a people doesn't erase the truth—it just exposes the ones trying to do it. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I am deflecting. Your the one that is deflecting away from the lies you are repeatedly telling. I only hope you are lying and dont actually believe what you are saying, but sadly in this i think i am wrong.

If you want a straight answer from me, ask a straight question, unlike some people, i never shy away from giving a direct answer, regardless of whether it will upset friend or foe.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 11:04am

You are the one doing Mental gymnastics, Jews spoke about the Arab problem because they kept massacre them when they could.
My family for example are not migrants from europe they are indigenous we were here before all those arabs came to work in our fields

Palestinian didnt exist as people (collective) until the 1960s they were simply Syrians or Egyptians.

Israel occupied Judea and Samaria from Jordan
Israel has no interest in Syria and once the fog on Juliani will be clearer we will decide what to do which is completely legitimate in my opinion specially when you have hordes of killers walking their own people as dogs.

International law doesnt exist it is a jungle outside.
No international law and no country would have saved me if I didnt have the power to save myself.
Specially not a Spoiled little boy raised with a golden spoon thinks he knows something about the horrors of war and violence.
Taking the high moral ground from his couch

Grow up!



Jews are called Jews because they are from Judea - this is a fact you cant dispute and you know where Judea is

This post was edited by Many_Names on Apr 2 2025 01:30pm

1. Your totally fixated on nationhood - Deny the Palestinians the right to exist while lifting up the state of Israel.
2. You told me I was deflecting, I offered you the opportunity to clarify what your question was, you refused to answer.

finally, the word "Palestine" existed long before the 1960s. It has been used for thousands of years to refer to the geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

so the TLDR here is: you interupted a conversation i was having, I corrected you, you then threw your toys, I asked why, and then you proceeded to throw more toys.

if you cant debate with me, stop quoting me looking for an argument, because last time i checked you have not won an argument once. All you do is lie and deflect, anything but face the truth which is being beamed all around the world.
I have no problem toning it down when people have earned my respect, but you have gone out of your way to lie lie and lie.

If you continue to quote me you can expect more of the same from me.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 2 2025 01:41pm