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Mar 31 2025 12:01pm
Just functionally speaking ISIS has posed literally zero threat to Israel. They've only fought the proposed enemies of Israel. It cannot be sheer coincidence. Occam's razor.


They are suni muslims and they fought shia it makes perfectly sense.
And why would they mess with tougher opponents when they barely survived hezbollah which Israel obliterated in 2 weeks


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ISIS did not focus its attacks on Israel for several reasons:

1. Geopolitical Strategy: ISIS primarily concentrated its efforts on establishing a caliphate in Iraq and Syria, rather than engaging in conflicts with established states like Israel. Their primary objective was to seize and control territory in the Middle East, and they viewed Israel as a secondary concern compared to other regional priorities.

2. Lack of Resources and Capability: While ISIS was a significant militant group, it lacked the military capability to take on Israel, a country with a well-established and advanced defense system (e.g., the Iron Dome, advanced air force, etc.).

3. ISIS’s Ideological Focus: ISIS’s ideology revolved around the establishment of a caliphate and its internal war against what it considered apostate regimes in the Muslim world, such as the governments of Iraq and Syria, rather than engaging in a direct war with Israel.

4. Regional Dynamics: Many Sunni militant groups, including ISIS, were focused on their struggle with Shia-dominated regimes like Iran and the Iraqi government. ISIS also tended to avoid direct confrontation with Israel due to the complex nature of the regional dynamics, which included the influence of other actors like Iran, Hezbollah, and even some Arab states that have taken a more pragmatic stance toward Israel.

5. Occasional Rhetoric: While ISIS did occasionally express hostility toward Israel in rhetoric, they were more focused on fighting what they perceived as local enemies, such as the Syrian government, Kurdish forces, and Iraqi forces, rather than engaging in a full-scale war with Israel.

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They are suni muslims and they fought shia it makes perfectly sense.
And why would they mess with tougher opponents when they barely survived hezbollah which Israel obliterated in 2 weeks


Edit:

ISIS did not focus its attacks on Israel for several reasons:

1. Geopolitical Strategy: ISIS primarily concentrated its efforts on establishing a caliphate in Iraq and Syria, rather than engaging in conflicts with established states like Israel. Their primary objective was to seize and control territory in the Middle East, and they viewed Israel as a secondary concern compared to other regional priorities.

2. Lack of Resources and Capability: While ISIS was a significant militant group, it lacked the military capability to take on Israel, a country with a well-established and advanced defense system (e.g., the Iron Dome, advanced air force, etc.).

3. ISIS’s Ideological Focus: ISIS’s ideology revolved around the establishment of a caliphate and its internal war against what it considered apostate regimes in the Muslim world, such as the governments of Iraq and Syria, rather than engaging in a direct war with Israel.

4. Regional Dynamics: Many Sunni militant groups, including ISIS, were focused on their struggle with Shia-dominated regimes like Iran and the Iraqi government. ISIS also tended to avoid direct confrontation with Israel due to the complex nature of the regional dynamics, which included the influence of other actors like Iran, Hezbollah, and even some Arab states that have taken a more pragmatic stance toward Israel.

5. Occasional Rhetoric: While ISIS did occasionally express hostility toward Israel in rhetoric, they were more focused on fighting what they perceived as local enemies, such as the Syrian government, Kurdish forces, and Iraqi forces, rather than engaging in a full-scale war with Israel.


You're right on a few of these counts but here's the ultimate problem.

It doesn't change the fact that ISIS's goals are well aligned with that of Israeli goals. Whether it's coincidence: and I do not believe it is because of how ISIS was first funded and armed, as well as Israel's multiple occasions of medical and intelligence support to them. Israel denies this of course, but they also lie about just about everything so I take that for a grain of salt.

Here's where you're wrong though as far as capability goes: That argument doesn't hold up because ISIS has taken on the strongest armies in the world. The United States.

Now this isn't all to say ISIS is an outright ally of Israel. They're even more self-destructive than the state of Israel. But there in lies the problem. Israel has always relied on destabilization of the surrounding regions, to ensure their continued funding from the US in the name of "defense" and to weaken the legitimate states surrounding it so when the time comes they can invade. Which they have done in just about every neighboring state at this point.

A perfect example is the rise of Hamas and continued downfall of the PLO. This wasn't entirely Israel's doing, but Netanyahu himself has said this was intentional and in their best interest. Netanyahu knows that extremist Islamists make for a better and more convincing enemy than secular or non-extremists.
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Mar 31 2025 12:29pm
Finally, and I think this is something we can all agree on: ISIS cannot win. It is one of the most disliked groups in the world and the region itself. It has no political legitimacy and its military strategy and capability are forever waning. Many of the cowards have already fled the Levant.

ISIS is like the more extreme version of Israel. There is no end goal. They have no consistency or agenda, they are fueled by aimless rage.

Israel on the other hand is far more strategic and has waaay more resources. All of this is to say: Israel benefits from the existence of ISIS.
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You're right on a few of these counts but here's the ultimate problem.

It doesn't change the fact that ISIS's goals are well aligned with that of Israeli goals. Whether it's coincidence: and I do not believe it is because of how ISIS was first funded and armed, as well as Israel's multiple occasions of medical and intelligence support to them. Israel denies this of course, but they also lie about just about everything so I take that for a grain of salt.

Here's where you're wrong though as far as capability goes: That argument doesn't hold up because ISIS has taken on the strongest armies in the world. The United States.

Now this isn't all to say ISIS is an outright ally of Israel. They're even more self-destructive than the state of Israel. But there in lies the problem. Israel has always relied on destabilization of the surrounding regions, to ensure their continued funding from the US in the name of "defense" and to weaken the legitimate states surrounding it so when the time comes they can invade. Which they have done in just about every neighboring state at this point.

A perfect example is the rise of Hamas and continued downfall of the PLO. This wasn't entirely Israel's doing, but Netanyahu himself has said this was intentional and in their best interest. Netanyahu knows that extremist Islamists make for a better and more convincing enemy than secular or non-extremists.


I am not into conspiracies or fantasies

Meanwhile in Israel:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH3GZfWIWCd/?igsh=MWQ0bHA1cDdyc2RuZA==
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I am not into conspiracies or fantasies

Meanwhile in Israel:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH3GZfWIWCd/?igsh=MWQ0bHA1cDdyc2RuZA==


You can ignore the conspiratorial side of this argument but you cannot ignore the practical side. I wouldn't blame you for it.

I'm not clicking any "meanwhile in Israel" instagram reel. I've seen enough children and women being left in rubble, set on fire, starving, and so on in Gaza. I would take living in Israel over Gaza any day.

Gazans are the victims. Not you.
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Many Names you know there is a viewing outpost in your country right? Like a place people gather with binoculars to look across the wastes of Gaza (and corpses)? What kind of sick freakish nation does that? Are you not ashamed of this?
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Many Names you know there is a viewing outpost in your country right? Like a place people gather with binoculars to look across the wastes of Gaza (and corpses)? What kind of sick freakish nation does that? Are you not ashamed of this?


The Gazans fucked around and found out
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The Gazans fucked around and found out


You have to admit that it must be the jewish peoples own behavior that is at fault for why so many of them were imprisoned in camps by Germany in WW2.
Or else they would of had the jewish state built in Germany.
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You have to admit that it must be the jewish peoples own behavior that is at fault for why so many of them were imprisoned in camps by Germany in WW2.
Or else they would of had the jewish state built in Germany.


I agree, they tried to turn Germany into a woke transgender cesspool like they're still doing today
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I agree, they tried to turn Germany into a woke transgender cesspool like they're still doing today


Jews arent turning anything they are simply the scapegoats for germans failures in ww1

Muslims on the other hand going to turn Germany inti Germanistan or Germanibad
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