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Mar 31 2025 03:12am
Any thinking person can think of at least 3-4 really good reasons why acquiring Greenland is actually a good idea, to the TDS fanatics they will view it as something unreasonable simply because Trump proposed it and discard the valid reasons. Of course our little TDS friend wont engage on merits, but as usual like a moth to a light is fixated on big bad orange.

-Greenland has lots of rare earths that are critical in production of many things we need. Rare earth mining/refining right now is overwhelmingly dominated by China, a clear geopolitical adversary so it would make sense for us to diversify supply and do it ourself sooner rather than later. The problem with rare earths processing is it's pretty nasty and if you are going to do it, you don't want to do it on the mainland US, but rather do it in some desolate area where it wouldn't impact us too much.

-Greenland is part of the arctic circle, an increasingly coveted region of the globe as ice melts and it can be used as a very efficient shipping route. Russia has already claimed part of the arctic waters based on the continental shelf. Obviously we would want to claim a bigger piece of the pie, not just from Alaska but also from Greenland.

-From a Monroe doctrine perspective, Greenland is part of North America, therefore why should some tiny Euro nation have claim over it? Also which historical territorial acquisition can be viewed as negative from lets say 100, 200 years ago for the US? Not a single one?, and it is irrelevant if it was acquired from friend or foe. 100 years from now no one is going to give a fuck that Denmark was an ally, what they will remember is the US grew by acquiring Greenland and again is going to be viewed as a net positive.

Personally, i would rather Trump just simply lay out these things plain as day instead of beating around the bush with ads about Nazis and whatever. Trump of course is thinking of legacy at this point, and acquiring a sizable land masses is one of the easiest ways to solidify your name in history books.


Funnily you can use this to argue how great Hitlers expansion plans were, after all history will only remember how great the german reich was and not that germans attacked half of europe

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Mar 31 2025 03:12am
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Mar 31 2025 05:25am
Would you be opposed to the us launching offensive wars against former allies to acquire territory or do you believe the ends justify the means?


Depends on who you consider “former allies”. Honestly I don’t think the US should allow anyone who is connected to the continental US by LAND to not be an ally. It’s militarily irresponsible at this time in history to do so.

Keep in mind TWO countries joined Nato with a third wanting to join JUST BECAUSE they can no longer trust their neighbor to do “what’s right” for their national security. Part of the ENTIRE Canada/Mexico issue with the US is that the US has security concerns with these countries (The border and lack of Military spending). So if we are to think that Finland, Sweden and the Ukraine wanting to make a military alliance and join Nato in a much more aggressive posture towards Russia is “righteous”(even though Sweden and Finland are in no immediate danger less so than the US which is already being invaded by illegals) then we have to at least UNDERSTAND any actions the US takes within reason. Tarrifs are a very light action all considering.

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Mar 31 2025 05:41am
Funnily you can use this to argue how great Hitlers expansion plans were, after all history will only remember how great the german reich was and not that germans attacked half of europe


Goodwins law/10

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Mar 31 2025 06:38am
There is zero probability of war. Under no scenario will Denmark send a single Dane to do anything about it. So what’s the point of pondering these nonsensical what ifs?


Did the Danes ever reciprocate anything to the US/Allies for liberation from the Nazis in WWII?
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Mar 31 2025 08:29am
I don't think there will ever be a dumpster fire like this administration again. Conflicts of interest are the norm.

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Mar 31 2025 08:42am
Goodwins law/10

Well done


Thanks! I don't think goodwins law applies if you actually talk about attacking allies to annex part of their country, that is just "on topic".
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Mar 31 2025 08:47am
Thanks! I don't think goodwins law applies if you actually talk about attacking allies to annex part of their country, that is just "on topic".


It does, because in typical fashion you lot rely on drawing Nazi parallels to bash the move (very original argument btw, only heard it the 37th time this week, for literally everything Trump or Elon does). No one is attacking anyone here. The US will simply take it over without any bullets flying, without and concentration camps, without any American, Dane or Greenland resident suffering.

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Mar 31 2025 08:51am
Imagine being a greenlander and listening to Vance talk about minerals thinking this will some how garner Greenlanders support.

What a tone deaf idiot. Americans truly have no idea how other parts of the world think.
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Mar 31 2025 09:05am
Imagine being a greenlander and listening to Vance talk about minerals thinking this will some how garner Greenlanders support.

What a tone deaf idiot. Americans truly have no idea how other parts of the world think.


They’ve never had to care.
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Mar 31 2025 09:32am
It does, because in typical fashion you lot rely on drawing Nazi parallels to bash the move (very original argument btw, only heard it the 37th time this week, for literally everything Trump or Elon does).


Just out of curiosity, how many more people would it need to show you parallels before you think about them?

Also because historical accuracy matters: Yes, Hitler was extra evil because he also genocided people based on religion, race, sexuality, political views.. but the reason world war two happened was because of his expansion by war, regimes gave no shit internationally about concentration camps until they witnessed them which was long after for obvious reasons.

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