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Mar 26 2025 09:48pm
Reporting posts that hurt your feelings because they're "vulgar" isn't fostering open debate, it's not like he insulted anyone here directly. Let's debate censorship and why you're in favour of it?


Why are you bitching at me? I didn't report it and I'm not a mod. I think they flag way too many posts on here but again if you have a problem with it, redirect your reeee elsewhere.
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Mar 26 2025 09:52pm
Why are you bitching at me? I didn't report it and I'm not a mod. I think they flag way too many posts on here but again if you have a problem with it, redirect your reeee elsewhere.


Never said you reported it or that you're a mod, but you seem rather content to see a post flagged because it's on the other side of the political spectrum. You could have engaged with the subject, but you chose not to. Sad.
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Mar 27 2025 07:30am
There's no going back for Canada and it doesn't matter what fake choice you're given. Country will continue to see large waves of immigration and your wages are going to be shit compared to the US because of it. Personally as someone that lives in the US, i have no desire to annex/integrate Canada as a state. We want low population large swaths of lands, not Ontario or Quebec which are liabilities. Highly doubt borders change, but if they did we'd prefer places like BC/Alberta/Yukon/Sask/Manitoba.


I mean, Canada is ahead of the USA in home ownership, the average Canadian has less credit card debt, and QoL by most metrics are higher in Canada.

I'd say credit cards are a pretty good indicator when you start using wages as the be all end all.

Average Credit Card Balance:
The average credit card balance for Canadians in the second quarter of 2024 was $4,300

The average credit card balance per American consumer with an outstanding balance rose from $6,380 in the third quarter of 2024 to $6,580 in the fourth quarter of 2024.

As a I Canadian, I personally have no desire to ever become American. It's always wages, wages ,wages yet most statistics that matter other than GDP still favour Canada.
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Mar 27 2025 07:45am
I mean, Canada is ahead of the USA in home ownership, the average Canadian has less credit card debt, and QoL by most metrics are higher in Canada.

I'd say credit cards are a pretty good indicator when you start using wages as the be all end all.

Average Credit Card Balance:
The average credit card balance for Canadians in the second quarter of 2024 was $4,300

The average credit card balance per American consumer with an outstanding balance rose from $6,380 in the third quarter of 2024 to $6,580 in the fourth quarter of 2024.

As a I Canadian, I personally have no desire to ever become American. It's always wages, wages ,wages yet most statistics that matter other than GDP still favour Canada.


Do you think we are more likely to be annexed under Carney or Poilievre? or ultimately, does it not even matter since the decision would be made on the other side of the border...
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Do you think we are more likely to be annexed under Carney or Poilievre? or ultimately, does it not even matter since the decision would be made on the other side of the border...


Don't think it ultimately matters. I don't think your will see the USA force anything via trade, it would be via threat of force since we have no resistance there but that would have some massive global implications.

Presumably it's just all bluster to overwhelm media. Panama cancel, Greenland, gulf, Canada, rebuild Gaza to be a resort area. It's just about tossing as many absurd things out there at once to overwhelm.

There's always going to be doomsday people, always have been, always will be. People that say its over, we're all fucekd, the country is fucked, there's people from every generation that do it. Well Henny, the sky didn't fall then, its not falling now. Naturally you will always have people, especially from other countries saying its over for you, think its half coping with their own situation or own countries shortcomings or people within Canada itself saying its over, but if you look on here, those same people are just edgy straight calling for open genocide.

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I mean, Canada is ahead of the USA in home ownership, the average Canadian has less credit card debt, and QoL by most metrics are higher in Canada.

I'd say credit cards are a pretty good indicator when you start using wages as the be all end all.

Average Credit Card Balance:
The average credit card balance for Canadians in the second quarter of 2024 was $4,300

The average credit card balance per American consumer with an outstanding balance rose from $6,380 in the third quarter of 2024 to $6,580 in the fourth quarter of 2024.

As a I Canadian, I personally have no desire to ever become American. It's always wages, wages ,wages yet most statistics that matter other than GDP still favour Canada.


QoL metrics are dogshit, but it's also something of a false dichotomy. If the United States and Canada were to establish free movement and a common border you'd see a dramatic increase in provincial GDP. In terms of HDI, all of the north-eastern states are all significantly better off than their Canadian counterparts. The question is whether Canadians want the QoL and relative wealth of the American north-east, not whether or not they want to have the QoL and relative wealth of Mississippi or Alabama.

I don't think outright annexation is the goal or anyone's real interest. The United States would be happy to establish an agreement of free association (leading towards statehood) with a sovereign Alberta or Saskatchewan, and Carney is dramatically underestimating the risk that comes with further alienating both provinces by way of punitive export tariffs. But the United States' does not want to outright absorb 40+ million largely left-wing voters. Balancing the separate health-care systems would also be a nightmare. The Republicans certainly don't want that, they're set to win the 2030 census decisively. And does anyone actually want Quebec? Even in a situation where Canada and the United States were to merge, the American preference would almost certainly be to see Quebec achieve nominal independence.

What the United States fundamentally wants is unified border policy and free movement of trade and people. Trade barriers between Canada and the United States are eliminating potentially trillions in joint GDP. And given the singular importance of Canada to American national security, the United States cannot tolerate a Canada which serves as a backdoor for Chinese and EU influence in North America.

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Mar 27 2025 08:38am
QoL metrics are dogshit


Whether or not you think this it only requires common sense to understand the average American, especially when factoring in our country's wealth, is far worse off than most other developed nations. I would lean towards trusting these metrics. I don't know if you're from the US or not but I am and I've been all around. I also have been to Canada, including Alberta and Ontario. The stark contrast wasn't really lost on me. The worst parts of Canada pale in comparison to the worst areas in the United States.
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Mar 27 2025 08:44am
QoL metrics are dogshit, but it's also something of a false dichotomy. If the United States and Canada were to establish free movement and a common border you'd see a dramatic increase in provincial GDP. In terms of HDI, all of the north-eastern states are all significantly better off than their Canadian counterparts. The question is whether Canadians want the QoL and relative wealth of the American north-east, not whether or not they want to have the QoL and relative wealth of Mississippi or Alabama.

I don't think outright annexation is the goal or anyone's real interest. The United States would be happy to establish an agreement of free association (leading towards statehood) with a sovereign Alberta or Saskatchewan, and Carney is dramatically underestimating the risk that comes with further alienating both provinces by way of punitive export tariffs. But the United States' does not want to outright absorb 40+ million largely left-wing voters. Balancing the separate health-care systems would also be a nightmare. The Republicans certainly don't want that, they're set to win the 2030 census decisively. And does anyone actually want Quebec? Even in a situation where Canada and the United States were to merge, the American preference would almost certainly be to see Quebec achieve nominal independence.

What the United States fundamentally wants is unified border policy and free movement of trade and people. Trade barriers between Canada and the United States are eliminating potentially trillions in joint GDP. And given the singular importance of Canada to American national security, the United States cannot tolerate a Canada which serves as a backdoor for Chinese and EU influence in North America.


Lmao, so were just taking Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

And still have worse QoL.

Maritimes:
Life expectancy at birth: 80.48 years
Female life expectancy: 82.67 years


Massachusetts: Life expectancy in Massachusetts was 79.6 years in 2021.
Connecticut: Life expectancy in Connecticut was 79.2 years in 2021.
New Jersey: Life expectancy in New Jersey was 79.0 years in 2021.
New York: Life expectancy in New York was 79.0 years in 2021.
Maine: Life expectancy in Maine was 77.8 years in 2021.
Rhode Island: Life expectancy in Rhode Island was 78.2 years in 2021.
Vermont: Life expectancy in Vermont was 78.8 years in 2021.
New Hampshire: Life expectancy in New Hampshire was 79.0 years in 2021.

But wealth , wealth, wealth.

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Lmao, so were just taking Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

And still have worse QoL.

Maritimes:
Life expectancy at birth: 80.48 years
Female life expectancy: 82.67 years


Massachusetts: Life expectancy in Massachusetts was 79.6 years in 2021.
Connecticut: Life expectancy in Connecticut was 79.2 years in 2021.
New Jersey: Life expectancy in New Jersey was 79.0 years in 2021.
New York: Life expectancy in New York was 79.0 years in 2021.
Maine: Life expectancy in Maine was 77.8 years in 2021.
Rhode Island: Life expectancy in Rhode Island was 78.2 years in 2021.
Vermont: Life expectancy in Vermont was 78.8 years in 2021.
New Hampshire: Life expectancy in New Hampshire was 79.0 years in 2021.

But wealth , wealth, wealth.


Are we really arguing over the difference between 79.6 and 80.4 as some sort of be all end all of QoL? Canada clearly disagrees, or they wouldn't be legalizing euthanasia. Stop coping and don't be become obese.
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Mar 27 2025 09:11am
I hope they legalize euthanasia in the US. People should have the right to die if they are suffering and terminal. I can't imagine what it is like to be forced to live while suffering and having no hope. It's just so needlessly cruel.
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