Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 25 2025 10:21pm)

Grats on MQ (75). Glad you did not pass to be honest, having a Paladin is kinda cool IMO.

Don't know what gear you use other than what has been posted. Pole-arm & your 200ee sword.

Simply put:

EE Weapon.
EITHER: EE or Stat (for your weapon ratio) Armor
Stat Main Charm (for your Weapon Ratio)
Optional: EE Heal Charm ... Note: with Base intelligence @35+ you can use this at Random times during combat while you are trying to exit cata)

Base stats are up to you, also when you apply those points when leveling with the items you use during your run.

Abilities are a matter of what you are comfortable with & your build with the items. The following is my Preference, not a guide for you.

I only use +Stat armor and + stat main charm(s) with an EE heal charm in ACC slot while only using +EE Weapons (Heavy preference)

Retribution (Barb Skill charges up with Damage or Hits Taken) ... 40% minimum
Salvation (Guardian Ability charges up with Damage or Hits Taken) ... 40% minimum

These are the only two(2) abilities I would use based on the fact of my build with 100 base Vitality, maximum of 30 Intelligence and rest to Strength or Dex... However, I use Battle-axe as a main because of base dex + str and whatever my Stat items give me, so I could use a Pole-Arm or War Hammer. And my ACC Heal charm is always the same level as my character level + with the best EE possible.

If pure Melee... the ACC heal charm can still stay and ignore Salvation ability... Power Strike + Retribution minimum 40% each... or Revenge + Retribution or Power Strike or all three(3) ... Revenge is also based on Stat Armor and only attacks the first 2 columns of monsters, the back column is ignored.

Play how you feel is comfortable... I choose retribution or power-strike because the damage it inflicts on a single monster, especially an EP.

Group runs... the creator of the run will specify your role... back, melee etc, thus your gear will play a role there.

Hope this helps in future runs... oh your 85 Vita build is more than sufficient with your type of play style.

Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Mar 26 2025 03:35am)

You can use all abilities but light red and red with % charge penalty

Quote (Port_Mcneill @ 26 Mar 2025 23:46)

ah ok i see. so the penalty is for the charging of the skill but otherwise the effect of the skill isn't nerfed...

Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 26 2025 04:10am)

Correct.

If I had a Feeder Barbarian, I can select Retribution (Blue... Barb Ability) and Power Strike (Pink... Fighter Ability) and Multi-Strike (Red... Ability).

Initially the first point =:
1 point for Barb ability Retribution = 20% charge.
1 point for Fighter ability Power-Strike = 10% charge
1 point for Samurai+ ability Multi-Strike = 6% charge

Additional points Diminish:
2nd point for Barb ability Retribution = total 38% charge.
2nd point for Fighter ability Power-Strike = total 19% charge
2nd point for Samurai+ ability Multi-Strike = ??% charge (since I don't know, I won't elaborate.)

Each point awarded diminishes based on Character Ability and so forth.

Quote (Port_Mcneill @ 27 Mar 2025 00:16)

ok cool, thanks for clarifying, will probably go all in for retribution this climb and see how that works out, hitting those first two columns doesnt help much from my experience last climb anyways

Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 26 2025 04:28am)

Hold your horses... woah.

Barb Ability Retribution using a Barb Class:

1 point = 20% (level 1)
2 points = 38% (level 5)
3 points = 48% (level 10)
4 points = 56% (level 15)
... Wow... level 15 and 56% charge... decent already.
5 points = 66% (level 20)
6 points = 72% (level 25)
... Okay... this is all you need... level 25... so how about a different ability??? Oh, 56% is optimal and choose a different ability, or 66%, as for 72% ... that is near the end for MQ in my opinion.

Power Strike for example... Pink:

1 point = 10% (? level)
2 points = 19% (? level)
3 points = 26% (? level) ... hmm, I maybe incorrect about %
4 points = 33% (? level)
5 points = 40% (? level) ... hmm, 40% is what you want to reach... you should get to 46% easily on top of your barb ability @ 72% or earlier if @ 58% Retribution (level 15) then add to power strike then.

EDIT: I may be off with some of the % numbers per point at higher levels... like 56% or it could be 58%... not sure.

Quote (Port_Mcneill @ 27 Mar 2025 00:38)

why would i choose power strike over retribution? ill still put some into revenge but last climb i have revenge up to 95% and it was only getting 1% per point which seems like a waste