Amazing only chatgpt isnt real life and the innocent olive people are not randomly exploding in buses or stabbing people in returants

If you have more criticism send it towards hamas where we dont even know what happened to the innocent civilians they are holding in what conditions or what food they get..

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 21 2025 01:29pm

?? ofc you know the conditions of the innocent civilians. you bombed gaza for over a year, you deprive it of food, water and medical supplies. starving them to death, ethnic cleansing from the river to the sea.The IDF, under instructions from the Israeli Government, who have been mandated by the people of Israel, have flattened the land from north to south, have shot, killed and blown up their own people and then wonder what became of the hostages ? i mean really ? really ??

there were multiple deals for all hostages to be released. Israel rejected all of them. and its clear that those in power do not care about the hostages, because if they did they would have accepted the deal and then continued to bomb. this way they simply have a narrative to continue doing what they do, what they can get away with, what they are getting away with.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 21 2025 01:38pm

I am not going to discuss hamas propaganda about october 7th

nothing i said was related to Oct 7th. it is a fact that:

1. bombed gaza for over a year -- As of March 21, 2025, Israeli airstrikes against the Gaza Strip have been ongoing for approximately 17 months and 14 days, starting on October 7, 2023
2. you deprive it of food, water and medical supplies -- Israel has imposed a blockade on Gaza, restricting the flow of goods and humanitarian aid. This has led to severe shortages in essential resources for the civilian population.
3. starving them to death --According to various humanitarian organizations, a large portion of Gaza's population faces extreme hunger, with many relying on aid just to survive, this aid is being blocked by Israel.
4. ethnic cleansing from the river to the sea --Forced displacement, especially when it is accompanied by the inability for displaced individuals or groups to return to their homes or land, meets the definition of ethnic cleansing.
5. The IDF, under instructions from the Israeli Government, who have been mandated by the people of Israel, have flattened the land from north to south -- aerial photo's of gaza or videos on youtube, pick your poison.
6. have shot, killed and blown up their own people and then wonder what became of the hostages - Dec 2023 3 hostages killed by an Israeli soldier were waving a white flag, official says The soldier who shot and killed three Israeli hostages in Gaza City after mistakenly identifying them as a threat did not follow Israel's rules of engagement, an Israeli military official said. -- Airstrikes and Artillery Fire: There have been instances where Israeli airstrikes or artillery fire, intended for Hamas positions or other militants, inadvertently struck Israeli positions or civilians.

your not very good at deflecting.

Since October 7, 2023, Israel has conducted extensive airstrikes in the Gaza Strip. According to reports from Gaza's media office, Israeli forces have dropped approximately 40,000 tons of explosives on Gaza since that date. To put this into perspective, the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima during World War II had an explosive yield of about 15 kilotons. Therefore, the total explosives dropped on Gaza since October 7, 2023, are estimated to be roughly 2,666 times the yield of the Hiroshima bomb.

I guess when your down in a well the news is from everyone in the well, and you dont read the news from outside the well. everyone else is wrong and you are right. dont think too much i guess.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 21 2025 01:53pm

Your argument presents a one-sided and misleading narrative that ignores context, Hamas’s role, and Israel’s legitimate security concerns:

“Bombed Gaza for over a year” - You omit the reason why: Hamas launched a massacre on October 7, 2023, killing 1,200 people and taking 250 hostages. No country would allow such an attack to go unanswered. The war has continued because Hamas refuses to surrender, continues to fire rockets at Israeli cities, and embeds itself in civilian areas. If Hamas laid down its arms, the war would end immediately.

“Depriving Gaza of food, water, and medical supplies” - Israel has facilitated the entry of thousands of aid trucks into Gaza. However, Hamas has repeatedly stolen and stockpiled these supplies for its fighters. Additionally, Hamas has fired at aid convoys and humanitarian workers. The true cause of suffering in Gaza is Hamas’s exploitation of its own people, not Israel’s policies.

Starving them to death” - Israel allows humanitarian aid in, and starvation is not its goal. If it were, there would be no aid entering Gaza at all. The real issue is Hamas controlling and hoarding supplies, prioritizing its fighters over civilians. Reports of starvation must be examined critically, as Hamas has a history of fabricating evidence and manipulating casualty figures.

“Ethnic cleansing from the river to the sea” - Ethnic cleansing means the deliberate removal of a population. Israel has never sought to remove Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank. However, Hamas openly calls for the extermination of Jews in its charter. If anyone is advocating for “ethnic cleansing from the river to the sea,” it’s Hamas and its supporters, not Israel.

“Flattening Gaza” - War causes destruction, but Israel targets Hamas infrastructure, not civilians. Hamas deliberately builds military bases under schools, hospitals, and mosques, using civilians as human shields. If Israel wanted to “flatten” Gaza, there wouldn’t be any Gazans left. Yet millions remain, proving that Israel’s goal is to dismantle Hamas, not destroy Gaza.

“Killing its own people” - The tragic incident where an IDF soldier mistakenly killed three hostages was investigated, and the soldier did not follow protocol. The difference between Israel and Hamas is accountability: Israel investigates its mistakes, while Hamas deliberately murders civilians and parades hostages’ bodies through the streets.

“40,000 tons of explosives = Hiroshima 2,666 times” - This is an absurd and misleading comparison. Hiroshima was a nuclear bomb designed for mass civilian casualties. The IDF uses precision-guided munitions to target military infrastructure. The sheer number of explosives means nothing without context. Israel is conducting military operations against a terror organization that hides in densely populated areas, making targeting complex.

Your argument is built on cherry-picked statistics and ignores the context of the war. If Hamas disarmed, there would be no war. If Israel disarmed, there would be no Israel. The real problem isn’t Israel defending itself—it’s Hamas prioritizing its war against Israel over the well-being of its own people.

If you have any concerns, you should address them to Hamas.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 21 2025 01:59pm

great! i love ammunition! lets go!

1. I posted a meme the other day, Oct 7th is like, season 5 of Game of Thrones, Israel was bombing Gaza on Oct 6th. You are deflecting. The fact is Israel bombed a civilian population into the stone age for approximately 17 months and 14 days. If you deflect and say but but Oct 7th, then I would refer you to another recent post of mine where i outlined Israel has killed more ppl in the last 4 days then were killed on Oct 7th. Its like someone saying "you bombed them for 17 months" and the response is: yes but they they attacked us first on Oct 7th, and the response is, oh, but what about Oct 6th then !? also the Yanks told you that gassing the tunnels would be bad optics, glad we didnt have to see that. Also glad your politicians suggestion to Nuke Gaza also was not widely supported (again, bad optic's i guess!)

2. There you go deflecting again. Israel is the one blocking the trucks from entering, and israel is the one bombing schools and hospitals. its difficult to give your argument merit when noting every hospital has been destroyed and you have cut off the electricity. your not good at this.

3. The Jewish Institute for National Security of America. While JINSA generally supports Israel’s right to self-defense, it has emphasized the importance of ensuring that humanitarian aid reaches civilians in conflict zones, including Gaza. JINSA has also advocated for a strategic approach that balances security with minimizing harm to innocent civilians, though it stops short of explicitly calling for a full ceasefire. obvious i wont mention the US Gov, WHO, IAEA, EU, UN or ICRC as these are all "biased" based on your previous statements.

4. Ethnic cleansing. ok well news flash: what we have seen in gaza over the last 17 months, meets the definition of ethnic cleansing. Its only the genocide tag thats not sticking. the Ethnic Cleansing tag sticks. you can read up on this yourself.

5. noted, but i already knew this.

6. over the last 17 months, there have been mass civilian casualties. are you saying that there were not mass civilian casualties on Oct 7th ?

7. your right, its a misleading comparison, as MORE BOMBS were dropped on Gaza. my bad.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 21 2025 02:14pm

it is just getting worse in gaza,, 60% under the age of 14 getting killed in gaza even though they just targeting the leaders of Hamas...now Israel seems to be getting ready for a new ground invasion .. They want use that excuse it all started on oct 7.. Like that was the first action taken before other peaceful ones were tried ..

There's no excuse for brutalizing prisoners

In this conflict both sides do it so it's kind of a moot point, but it just goes to show that Western European and British honour culture is something people take for granted, this stuff is normal everywhere else in the world

false equivalencies, selective outrage, and a complete disregard for context

1. This is a deliberate distortion. There was no war before October 7th. Israel conducted limited precision strikes against Hamas military targets in response to rocket attacks. Hamas, on the other hand, launched a full-scale massacre, brutally murdering 1,200 civilians and taking 250 hostages something no country would tolerate.

And comparing the number of deaths post-October 7th is meaningless. Hamas started the war and continues to use civilians as human shields. That’s the difference between terrorism and self-defense.

Your “optics” argument about gas and nuclear weapons is just noise. Israel did neither. Meanwhile, Hamas’s actual war crimes are on full display but you don’t seem to care.


2. Completely false. More than 13,000 aid trucks have entered Gaza. The real problem? Hamas steals the aid, stockpiles it for fighters, and even attacks humanitarian convoys.

Hospitals and schools? Hamas militarized them. That’s why they’re targeted. Pretending Israel is just bombing them for fun ignores the reality of Hamas turning civilian infrastructure into terror bases.

And let’s talk about electricity Israel stopped supplying it because Hamas attacked and massacred Israeli civilians. Why should Israel provide utilities to a terrorist group that just murdered its people?

3. Sure, aid should reach civilians and Israel has facilitated it. But acting like Israel is responsible for all suffering while ignoring Hamas’s theft, smuggling tunnels, and weapon stockpiles in aid centers is dishonest.

You also list organizations like the UN, WHO, and ICRC which have a long history of relying on Hamas-controlled sources for their reports. Meanwhile, Hamas terrorists were found working for UNRWA but I’m sure that detail slipped your mind.

4. Laughable. Ethnic cleansing means deliberately removing a population yet millions of Palestinians still live in Gaza. Israel is fighting Hamas, not trying to wipe out Palestinians. If it were, Gaza wouldn’t exist anymore.

Meanwhile, Hamas’s stated goal is to ethnically cleanse Jews from Israel. Their charter calls for the extermination of Jews worldwide. So tell me again who’s really pushing for ethnic cleansing?

6. Yes, because Hamas deliberately hides behind civilians. If Hamas fought like a conventional army, the civilian toll would be much lower. But Hamas chooses to embed itself in schools, hospitals, and apartment buildings so they can cry “war crimes” when Israel retaliates.

And equating Hamas’s deliberate civilian massacre on October 7th with Israel targeting terrorists is disgusting. One side is committing intentional war crimes, the other is trying to stop them.

7. This is one of the dumbest comparisons anti-Israel activists love to push.
Hiroshima was a single nuclear bomb designed for mass civilian deaths.
Israel is using precision-guided munitions to target Hamas infrastructure.
The total tonnage of bombs means nothing without context. More small, targeted strikes ≠ one massive, indiscriminate attack.

And why does Israel need to drop so many bombs? Because Hamas built an underground terror fortress beneath Gaza 500 kilometers of tunnels, filled with weapons, command centers, and hostages. That’s the reality of the battlefield Israel is facing.

Your entire argument ignores one simple fact:

Hamas started this war. Hamas refuses to surrender. Hamas hides behind civilians.

If Hamas laid down its arms today, the war would end.
If Israel laid down its arms today, there would be genocide.

That’s the real difference.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 21 2025 02:26pm

I agree, those soldiers should be held accountable.

Unfortunately, Israeli hostages receive worse treatment on the other side of the fence and no one will be held accountable

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 21 2025 02:28pm