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Mar 21 2025 11:17am
so you're saying the laundry list of US aid wasn't enough? 20 million for Iraqi Sesame Street? money well spent?

or the bevy of fraud uncovered in social security with many people well over 150 years old receiving payments?

im not even a big believer in DOGE, but denying that they've actually uncovered some things tax dollars should 100% not be going to is silly.


Nobody over 150 years received any payments, how fucking gullible are you? https://crr.bc.edu/150-year-olds-arent-getting-social-security-heres-a-better-task-for-doge/ or whatever source you want, just use the search engine of your choice instead of fox news

The 20 million for iraqi sesame street thing? Also not really true, who would have thought: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/20/sesame-street-usaid-iraq/

I know how ineffective government is, I worked at a medical research center which was part of a state owned university. There can be money saved and processes can be streamlined, but not by a social media and ketamine addicted CEO of multiple companies and his army of 20 year olds.

But sure, you can have the stance USAID was waste so all that money is saved - I 100% disagree on that statement and you really don't need a "genius" to cut all forgein aid because you don't value soft power or helping brown people, but I can see how you can be happy it is gone. Be aware that just because you dislike some spending doesn't mean the money is wasted though.

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Mar 21 2025 11:26am
Nobody over 150 years received any payments, how fucking gullible are you? https://crr.bc.edu/150-year-olds-arent-getting-social-security-heres-a-better-task-for-doge/ or whatever source you want, just use the search engine of your choice instead of fox news


1. that's an opinion piece that uses a 10 year old figure of fraud from an audit, then guesses how Elon's team came to their numbers, then suggests but doesn't prove they are wrong. you posted an op-ed as fact.

2. like i said, im not invested in DOGE or Elon, if social security has less fraud than they stated, good! i dont want social security to fail and fraud only ramps that up.

3. you asked for 3 examples, i cited all of the US Aid findings as examples but named one specifically. then also noted SS fraud. you skipped the large part of what they've uncovered with actual numbers attached, and jumped to SS, which again im HAPPY not sad to be wrong on.

4. i dont watch fox news, you're doing that thing low IQ people do where you assume you know a lot about me and what i believe. i could save you time and tell you that you're wrong but you wont listen so go off queen.
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Mar 21 2025 11:29am
1. that's an opinion piece that uses a 10 year old figure of fraud from an audit, then guesses how Elon's team came to their numbers, then suggests but doesn't prove they are wrong. you posted an op-ed as fact.

4. i dont watch fox news, you're doing that thing low IQ people do where you assume you know a lot about me and what i believe. i could save you time and tell you that you're wrong but you wont listen so go off queen.


So what is your source for the payments to 150 year olds?
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Mar 21 2025 11:31am
So what is your source for the payments to 150 year olds?


the public announcements that Trump, Elon, and DOGE have made claiming that.

you're really going to do it huh? lol. i said im happy to be wrong, but you're going to try and hold me to something im not invested in lol.

have you even bothered to look at the DOGE website yet? likely not, you wouldn't be begging for numbers if you did. unless it's too complicated?
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Mar 21 2025 11:34am
the public announcements that Trump, Elon, and DOGE have made claiming that.

you're really going to do it huh? lol. i said im happy to be wrong, but you're going to try and hold me to something im not invested in lol.

have you even bothered to look at the DOGE website yet? likely not, you wouldn't be begging for numbers if you did. unless it's too complicated?


Can you provide a written source, where DOGE and Musk claim that multiple people over 150 years received payments? No? Oh, so you saw it on TV and repeated it without checking? I am shocked.

I looked at the DOGE Website, checked two "high saving" grands and they were both to get more and better educated teachers, then gave up because that would have been clearly a smart investment and instead asked you guys for some example of big savings that were actually wasteful.
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Mar 21 2025 11:46am
Can you provide a written source, where DOGE and Musk claim that multiple people over 150 years received payments? No? Oh, so you saw it on TV and repeated it without checking? I am shocked.

I looked at the DOGE Website, checked two "high saving" grands and they were both to get more and better educated teachers, then gave up because that would have been clearly a smart investment and instead asked you guys for some example of big savings that were actually wasteful.


yes, that's what i did, which is why im not married to it lol.

did you look at this section? or just didnt scroll far enough? sounds like you scrolled until you found something you think is needed, then assumed it was all a farce.

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since we're apparently in a strawman contest, why do you support the US federal govt renewing 80k$/year in Wall Street Journal subscriptions?
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Mar 21 2025 11:49am
Its pretty gutting to be honest in such a pro corporate country that consumer protection is being gutted. If you have ever had to go down that road, and I have twice in my life, once for myself and once for the wife, you know exactly how miserable billion dollar corps are to deal with, and clearly do not care and there's a reduced threat of recourse, well we know how that will go.

That's one I wouldn't / don't want to see gutted and if anything made more robust.
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Mar 21 2025 11:52am
Its pretty gutting to be honest in such a pro corporate country that consumer protection is being gutted. If you have ever had to go down that road, and I have twice in my life, once for myself and once for the wife, you know exactly how miserable billion dollar corps are to deal with, and clearly do not care and there's a reduced threat of recourse, well we know how that will go.

That's one I wouldn't / don't want to see gutted and if anything made more robust.


They should leave CFPB. That's one i don't really agree with. CFPB is one of the few that will actually go after the big corporates when they overstep because in reality a consumer can never take a company.
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Mar 21 2025 11:54am
That he's still a piece of human garbage as a person.

Thanks for asking.


And just think, all those kids continue on his genetics and his legacy, well beyond his, or your life. That's not even mentioning his extensive body of work, which has influenced spacecraft and rocketry. He's like a virus infecting the world with Muskness, and also it seems, your psyche. Do you have nightmares about Elon?
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Mar 21 2025 11:55am
They should leave CFPB. That's one i don't really agree with. CFPB is one of the few that will actually go after the big corporates when they overstep because in reality a consumer can never take a company.


Agreed, It on surface level from numbers released appeared it was more than paying for itself, something like $2.80 of money recouped for every dollar of cost. I could be butchering those numbers, but it was positive.

I've had to take on an airline and phone company in my time, two experiences that were indescribably miserable and only got recouped after going to the respective bodies for consumer protection.

And just think, all those kids continue on his genetics and his legacy, well beyond his, or your life. That's not even mentioning his extensive body of work, which has influenced spacecraft and rocketry. He's like a virus infecting the world with Muskness, and also it seems, your psyche. Do you have nightmares about Elon?


No? I just think that certain people who don't hold xyz values are garbage and not people I would likely associate with on a friendly level. Is that hard to comprehend for someone. Again there's separation from acknowledging feats and, hey that's a guy you would like. I don't understand why that is so hard to unpack for some. I think its worship mentality, those that need to worship an idol. Feel like I don't really have that. If you feel you need to have an unfaultering opinion of someone because they aline with xyz you do you.

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