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Mar 21 2025 10:45am
Despite some of the points posted here I would definitely be interested for this. Its another Sink option and the cost of some items and mutes that sell could easily cover this. If you are one of the individuals that say "Pay to win" that is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard as that's how this game has ALWAYS been. New players typically can not come into this game and expect to compete with top end slashers w/o effectively trading in from other games and its worse now than ever with how much certain classes of gear have literally exploded in value. If you think +10 magic luck for one day renders your items moot, please beat yourself in the goddamn face with a rusty shovel because that is down right dumb. That item you own is PERMANENT and the value you spent is retained, especially if you are getting drops that are high stats or even over spawn. 50 FG a day is cheap and you can literally still find NOTHING even on high item stat events with it, in terms of the cost one level 55 mute easily overcomes that.

However, nothing is ever added to this game w/o a loss somewhere else for the "Balance" aspect. Rex introduced a few of them and showed big picture thinking already. I think this could be a good addition but it needs more brainstorming. I unfortunately don't care enough anymore with everyone's Historic No/Negative attitude to be part of that contribution. Its why Paul said Fuck you to us so many years ago and stopped being involved with suggestion threads. Cheers on a good start of an idea imo, keep at it all.


Thanks for your positive feedback and post, it also made me think of another Idea (yup, full of those without getting some fruition).

How about spending (FG Sink Hole) for "Events" that are "Current" at that time. Again, 24 hour period and maximum of +1 or +1% to a Maximum of 10.

As an example, we will look at the Current Event available now:

Bonus Event in progress for 2 days, 20 hours:
+190% More Treasure Chests
+29% to Experience Cap
40.85% Faster Fishing
+10% Experience Gained
16x Cooking Experience
+60% Suffusencing Enhanced Effect

For me personally, this is a junk event, HOWEVER, I could pay like 100 forum gold for +1% More Treasure Chests (maximum 10 = 1000 fg for 10% total addition). So, when exploring, I would have 200% More Treasure Chests (Map or Catacomb)

Now, once again it is up to the player to choose, also, if I was running a full group run, I could easily buy +10% Experience Gained @ 1000 forum gold for a period of 24 hours during this event, thus I could be the driver and have a +20% Experience Gained additional to any Alchemists that are online at the time giving +2% Experience Gain each. Oh, this does not include any Glyphs that maybe active either.

So, minimum is 100 forum gold per 1 or 1% to an Event Modifier and a maximum of 10 to purchase. This would come in handy with +X Stat etc Event modifier. Note: Only Event modifiers can be purchased, if a modifier is NOT listed, you can not purchase it.


EDIT: Just in addition... with my original post, this could also be combined.

Example: I pay 50 forum gold for +10 Magic Luck and pay 1000 forum gold for +10% experience gained during the EVENT, thus they add on? Hope this makes sense.

So... for another example... you can buy +10 Magic Luck @ 50 fg for 24 hours during an Event with +3% Magic Luck Effectiveness (purchase another 10% @ 1000 forum gold / 100 fg per 1% for 24 hours) Awesome in my thoughts.

NOTE: you may not even be wearing any Magic Luck items, but since you paid for the Magic Luck, it applies during your run(s)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 21 2025 10:56am
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Mar 21 2025 11:52am
Thanks for your positive feedback and post, it also made me think of another Idea (yup, full of those without getting some fruition).

How about spending (FG Sink Hole) for "Events" that are "Current" at that time. Again, 24 hour period and maximum of +1 or +1% to a Maximum of 10.

As an example, we will look at the Current Event available now:

Bonus Event in progress for 2 days, 20 hours:
+190% More Treasure Chests
+29% to Experience Cap
40.85% Faster Fishing
+10% Experience Gained
16x Cooking Experience
+60% Suffusencing Enhanced Effect

For me personally, this is a junk event, HOWEVER, I could pay like 100 forum gold for +1% More Treasure Chests (maximum 10 = 1000 fg for 10% total addition). So, when exploring, I would have 200% More Treasure Chests (Map or Catacomb)

Now, once again it is up to the player to choose, also, if I was running a full group run, I could easily buy +10% Experience Gained @ 1000 forum gold for a period of 24 hours during this event, thus I could be the driver and have a +20% Experience Gained additional to any Alchemists that are online at the time giving +2% Experience Gain each. Oh, this does not include any Glyphs that maybe active either.

So, minimum is 100 forum gold per 1 or 1% to an Event Modifier and a maximum of 10 to purchase. This would come in handy with +X Stat etc Event modifier. Note: Only Event modifiers can be purchased, if a modifier is NOT listed, you can not purchase it.


EDIT: Just in addition... with my original post, this could also be combined.

Example: I pay 50 forum gold for +10 Magic Luck and pay 1000 forum gold for +10% experience gained during the EVENT, thus they add on? Hope this makes sense.

So... for another example... you can buy +10 Magic Luck @ 50 fg for 24 hours during an Event with +3% Magic Luck Effectiveness (purchase another 10% @ 1000 forum gold / 100 fg per 1% for 24 hours) Awesome in my thoughts.

NOTE: you may not even be wearing any Magic Luck items, but since you paid for the Magic Luck, it applies during your run(s)


Like Dion said, I think the idea is cool, but the balancing is off :lol:

Buying +10 Magic luck for 1 day for 50 fg seems like a no-brainer, but additive 10% more treasure chests to make 190% go to 200% for 1000 fg is such a horrid deal.

And then if you let people buy item stat quality before they start muting… well, +10% additive item stat quality for 1000 fg is a steal…

Could be a great sink for fg which I’d think would be enticing for Paul, but it’ll also break his vision for the game if balanced wrong. Can you give us a more realistic mock-up for the values, Rex?
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Mar 21 2025 12:31pm
Like Dion said, I think the idea is cool, but the balancing is off :lol:

Buying +10 Magic luck for 1 day for 50 fg seems like a no-brainer, but additive 10% more treasure chests to make 190% go to 200% for 1000 fg is such a horrid deal.

And then if you let people buy item stat quality before they start muting… well, +10% additive item stat quality for 1000 fg is a steal…

Could be a great sink for fg which I’d think would be enticing for Paul, but it’ll also break his vision for the game if balanced wrong. Can you give us a more realistic mock-up for the values, Rex?


The realism is the 24 hour period.

The more forum gold per +1 or % for an event modifier is during the days of effect ... 2 or 3 days, and again, you can only purchase the Modifiers explicit to that event, you can not purchase a modifier excluded in that event for that amount of days... only a 24 hour period. Thus why it is more expensive.

RNG is a major factor in all games, and LS RNG is just crap, even if you buy +10 Magic Luck @ 50 forum gold for a period of 24 hours, you are NOT GUARANTEED to get a Sexy drop... or should I say that the SEXY drop is a Tier I or II and is not usable at all... shit it could be an overspawn, and still be crap. 24 hours doesn't guarantee anything of value, however, it gives HOPE that something MAY drop. Hey, come on... you can have +25 Magic Luck (gear) and kill a monster and that monster drops ZERO item... your +25 magic luck = 0, it doesn't add to the DROP RATE aye?

Hey... it is all perception right? Yours, mine & all players. It doesn't hurt to have some hope that you find a better item, even if you fork out for it.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 21 2025 12:32pm
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Mar 21 2025 12:41pm
Sorry for Double Post... well not really since the following makes sense to all previous posts.

Purchase
... +1% Drop Rate @ 5 fg to a Maximum of 10% @ 50 forum gold.
... +1% Drop Quality @ 5 fg to a Maximum of 10% @ 50 forum gold.
... +1% Drop Quantity @ 5 fg to a Maximum of 10% @ 50 forum gold.

All for a period of 24 hours, spending a total of 150 forum gold is more sufficient excluding Magic Luck.. so the first 4 should be:

Magic Luck (10) 50fg
Drop Rate (10%) 50fg
Drop Quality (10%) 50fg
Drop Quantity (10%) 50fg
... 24 hour period ... stay awake now.

What would be the final one to pick? Str / Dex / Regen etc

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 21 2025 12:43pm
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Mar 21 2025 08:44pm
yes from me.. pretty cool idea. i thought of something along these lines years ago. but figured id just get laughed at or belittled for mentioning it at the time.. with the playerbase at the time..
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Mar 21 2025 09:09pm
Reminds me to much of Glyphs ..so voted no :lol:
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Mar 21 2025 09:13pm
No cuz poor
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