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Your ancestors where illegal invader savages who opressed and genocided local tribes. Not better than Nazi germans, sorry to reveal the truth to you.


The exact same can be said for everyone on Earth. Your despicable family didn’t spawn into existence by accident, nor did they live peacefully for time immemorial.

Again you conflate illegal immigration and colonialism. What law did they break?
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The exact same can be said for everyone on Earth. Your despicable family didn’t spawn into existence by accident, nor did they live peacefully for time immemorial.

Again you conflate illegal immigration and colonialism. What law did they break?


The Iroquois Great Law of Peace was a constitution that established a democracy between five Iroquois-speaking tribes—the Seneca, Cayuga, Oneida, Onondaga, and Mohawk. This group of five nations, called the Iroquois Confederacy, was established around 1450.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Law_of_Peace

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The Iroquois Great Law of Peace was a constitution that established a democracy between five Iroquois-speaking tribes—the Seneca, Cayuga, Oneida, Onondaga, and Mohawk. This group of five nations, called the Iroquois Confederacy, was established around 1450.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Law_of_Peace


Nothing about their immigration policy in there. At least you tried.
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Nothing about their immigration policy in there. At least you tried.


Laws of migration

When any person or any of the people migrate and reside in a region close to ours, they must send a messenger carrying a broad belt of black shells and when the messenger arrives he shall call the people together or address them personally displaying the belt of shells and they shall know that this is an order for them to settle peacefully.


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Sure you did, in other topic though you told a story of how you are descendent of Trotsky movement revolutionaries or w/e.



Well under todays laws, British/French colonization of land known as Canada today would be classified as an invasion, they came to inhabited land, invaded it, fought and killed local populations that didn't grant them visas.

https://i.gyazo.com/038bbaced4d6ea5778e36c3538fc792e.png


No, I said my parents were Trotskyists ideologically but they're not Russian or Jewish. I'm 100% Germanic, 70 Northern Anglo and 30 Swede. My family is descended from the Industrial Revolution in England working the linen mills who afterwards settled in Canada

Meanwhile your people haven't built a damn thing and are inconsequential welfare dependents

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No, I said my parents were Trotskyists ideologically but they're not Russian or Jewish. I'm 100% Germanic, 70 Northern Anglo and 30 Swede. My family is descended from the Industrial Revolution in England working the linen mills who afterwards settled in Canada


The British Industrial Revolution (1760-1840), so as you say your family settled in Canada after said Industrial revolution.

The Battle of Quebec was fought on 13 September 1759 during the Seven Years War (1756-63), so your family settled in Canada many years after said war.

Our French friends were the first to stake a claim to the land. Then we beat them and we mercifully left them with Quebec

And the Indian invaders days here are numbered they'll leave voluntarily or the hard way


Did your family fight the French inside British linen mills?

Anyhow your family and family of Chainsaw where illegal aliens who first violated the great peoples of Iroquois immigration laws by not sending a messenger carrying a broad belt of black shells to speak to said great people of Iroquois to settle peacefully, instead engaged in killing and opressing them.

As we all know:

In law, ignorantia juris non excusat (Latin for "ignorance of the law excuses not"), or ignorantia legis neminem excusat ("ignorance of law excuses no one"), is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely by being unaware of its content.


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Laws of migration

When any person or any of the people migrate and reside in a region close to ours, they must send a messenger carrying a broad belt of black shells and when the messenger arrives he shall call the people together or address them personally displaying the belt of shells and they shall know that this is an order for them to settle peacefully.


Care to link to that? It’s not in your wiki link and searching on the Constitution of the Iroquois Nations turns up a very similar text about emigration to a land away from the Five Nations.

The French migrated peacefully at first, forging alliances with the Huron. The Iroquois attacked the Huron and the French settlements because they wanted to control the fur trade. They lost and the Mohawk living in Quebec are now selling counterfeit cigarettes and cheap vapes.
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Care to link to that? It’s not in your wiki link and searching on the Constitution of the Iroquois Nations turns up a very similar text about emigration to a land away from the Five Nations.

The French migrated peacefully at first, forging alliances with the Huron. The Iroquois attacked the Huron and the French settlements because they wanted to control the fur trade. They lost and the Mohawk living in Quebec are now selling counterfeit cigarettes and cheap vapes.





Bro, only way you are getting out of this is if you provide proof your ancestors respected the great people of Iroquois and their laws and sent the messenger with broad belt full of black shells. Only broad belt, cracked sash won't do. Your ancestors wanting to skin animals alive is not excuse to violating laws.

The Mohawks are now suffering because your ancestors illegally migrated brought illnesses from Europe with them and stole their land/fur by getting Hurons drunk and trading mirrors for said land/fur/slaves.
https://ictnews.org/archive/mohawk-the-tragedy-of-colonization

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Bro, only way you are getting out of this is if you provide proof your ancestors respected the great people of Iroquois and their laws and sent the messenger with broad belt full of black shells. Only broad belt, cracked sash won't do.


There’s no mention of that in the version I see on Harvard’s website; nothing that would apply to outsiders anyway. Do you have any evidence of that "law" being enforced during the first contact with Jacques Cartier? Because at the time their chief didn’t seem to mind Cartier leaving with two of his sons; looking to trade for them.

When Champlain came back, the Iroquois were actively fighting each other, as the St. Lawrence Iroquois wanted to trade with the French, while other tribes didn’t.

2025 lenses on 1500-1600s colonialism is bound to look bad at some point, but the fact remains that it’s not in any way, shape or form similar to today’s illegal immigration.

e/ anyway, this is getting wildly off-topic. As for your edit, I’m not denying we crushed the Iroquois, I’m saying it’s not comparable to today’s illegal immigration. I’d be curious to know what your ancestors did, but I’d be surprised you actually know and/or care to reflect on it.

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There’s no mention of that in the version I see on Harvard’s website; nothing that would apply to outsiders anyway. Do you have any evidence of that "law" being enforced during the first contact with Jacques Cartier? Because at the time their chief didn’t seem to mind Cartier leaving with two of his sons; looking to trade for them.

When Champlain came back, the Iroquois were actively fighting each other, as the St. Lawrence Iroquois wanted to trade with the French, while other tribes didn’t.

2025 lenses on 1500-1600s colonialism is bound to look bad at some point, but the fact remains that it’s not in any way, shape or form similar to today’s illegal immigration.

e/ anyway, this is getting wildly off-topic. As for your edit, I’m not denying we crushed the Iroquois, I’m saying it’s not comparable to today’s illegal immigration. I’d be curious to know what your ancestors did, but I’d be surprised you actually know and/or care to reflect on it.


My ancestors surely would send a messenger with belt full of black shells to settle peacefully.

And to get back on topic, Indians are not arriving in Canada randomly by boat without prior communication. Canada is actively inviting them. This discussion arose from bitching about Indians who, according to some sick nasty individuals here:

1) Work 2-3 minimum wage jobs, taking ourrrr jobbbs (despite paying some of the highest taxes in the western world from their salaries, improving and expanding Canadian economy)
2) Collect benefits (they paid for, through taxes by working said 2-3 minimum wage jobs)
3) Live together to save money (not sure what this has to do with anything really and why should people be dictated to on how to live by some dude whose ancestors smelt like rotten pickes when they got off the boat when they came to Canada some 100 years ago )

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