Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 18 2025 12:12pm)

If they had anything tangible about actual WMD's, do you really think the Pentagon would of kept it secret?
Or do you think they would of avoided the humiliation of no WMD's found by the U.S. in Iraq.
If they had anything in a favorable light they would of bragged about it to no end, justifying the invasion.
Now you are claiming remnants, that were supposed to be disposed of.
There was a Chemical weapons munitions plant in Vermilion County Indiana that stored VX nerve gas for decades and they didn't even get the funding to dispose of it until the mid 2000s, and it wasn't disposed of until 2008.
There was enough never gas in the Newport munitions plant that if it were released and the wind was going the right direction it could of killed all of Chicagoland.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Mar 18 2025 12:16pm)

The source isn’t NPR, it’s just citing an article published by the New York Times where there’s a claim soldiers were hurt by what seems to be chemical agents in 6 incidents over a decade of war.

It wasn’t a "theory" as you say, it was a claim presented as an absolute truth by the US and UK government to justify waging war in Iraq. It turned out to be a lie.

E/ typo

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 18 2025 10:08am)

Had to show em whose boss eh?

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 18 2025 01:19pm)

No it wasn’t they founded dated weapons. Warheads even. It’s not my fault you want to focus on whatever media you want. I do find it weird you don’t trust the New York Times. Them being liberal and all.

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 18 2025 12:17pm)

I’m not sure what that has to do with anything other than pointing out the known hypocrisy of the US government. Are you calling 5000+ brave Men and Women liars? Or just that it seems fishy?

PS I heard about this back in 2004-5 I dunno where you were. Probably focused on one side of the coin but they didn’t hide the fact they found remnants they hid the fact 17 service members were injured due to disposal. I highly expect because those SPECIFIC troops were not qualified to do so.

Kind of like asking people who can’t even pass their marksman training to go to war in the first place (which the military does regularly).

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Mar 18 2025 12:25pm)

I focus on official reports by the UN and the US government. The original claim that Iraq was stockpiling WMDs, which led to the war, was false.

I’m not criticizing the NYT as a source, I’m criticizing this editorialist piece for what it is: garbage. What’s wrong with liberalism by the way?

Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 18 2025 12:27pm)

Unless you were born yesterday, it's guaranteed complete bullshit on its face.
Well now that you bring up this brave service members crap, I would expect out of 170k people stationed in Iraq at any time far more than 5000+ were total fucking liars.
Just look at how they all file for VA disability benefits even though nothing is wrong with them.

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 18 2025 01:30pm)

In one of those links it literally said the US reported that over 5000 service members reported this. They also said it was released during the freedom of information act.

Why would they say this (A liberal media source that HATES Bush) if it wasn’t the case. That’s wild.

Quote (MadMan87 @ Mar 18 2025 12:31pm)

How do you know nothing is wrong with them? You a doctor? Psychiatrist?

Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 18 2025 12:47pm)

Look at how much disability payments have blown up compared to actual bloody wars in the past like WW2, Korea, Vietnam.
Go take a look at some of the online forums where they discuss how to game the fucking system.