Quote (MildSambal @ 16 Mar 2025 11:41)

You're entangled in a lot of fallacies. You believe in meritocracy, it appears, but it's a fact that wealth disparity and limited class mobility remain widespread regardless of individual work ethic

Wealth disparity and limited class mobility are gaining even more traction because of how effective the promotion of these ideas are via media, politics, corporate culture, education, and the private elite circles

You believe that someone is an idiot if they don't pull themselves up by their bootstraps to be as successful as you, it's not that simple

Quote (SBD @ Mar 16 2025 09:27am)

I bet I hunt, fish, make more cloths than anyone here as I type this from my table covered in fur scraps and I believe the rise in CEO pay as a ratio to average worker as well as longevity of CEOs within companies is a modern as in past 50-60 year issue that's caused significant issues and resulted in some of the wealthiest people on earth. Billionaires not all but if we're being all encompassing, really there's issues with extreme wealth.

Wealth inequality may be one thing but if you look at modern day function and how what modern day CEOs do in their record short terms at companies now, it's pretty disastrous I'd say. Stock price being the ultimate measuring stick resulting in buybacks that often make no sense rather than actual organic growth, over acquisition, over leveraged, absurd multiples, etc. We encourage this and pay hundreds of millions to the guy at the top conducting it and he can be the fall guy in 3 or 5 years with a golden parachute. Modern day leverage, make the product worse via slash and burn but continually increase the price, that's a modern day tact with the rise of these ultra rich.

Now industry creation in itself, obviously there's benifits and drawbacks that both have to be weighed out. Mass job creation but is it, good job creation or off the back of lobbying a ton of highly unfavourable labour laws that the set a precedent for every other after. You don't have to look far in America to see worker rights have completely declined and in some States borderline non existent off the back of lobbying efforts.

But overall America has always obsessed over its Billionaires, I'm confident that the American Dream is played on TV at every birthing room on loop like one of those Army recruitment commercials that are supposed to get you hyped.

Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 16 2025 10:42am)

Tell me your a socialist a bit more maybe i'll be convinced.

Quote (MildSambal @ 16 Mar 2025 11:54)

no I believe in meritocracy that doesn't have some people starting up to bat and others starting on 3rd base

Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 16 2025 10:58am)

Someone born with a silver spoon will always have an advantage, if you were in that position, would you not give your children the leg up you didn't have?

Quote (MildSambal @ 16 Mar 2025 12:06)

I think I walk the talk, I work as a public servant making $40k annual when I could just as easily still be in sales easily making over 100k and fully remote

because it's not all about me and I think my work towards the greater good is more important than me living in a nice house and driving a nice car

Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 16 2025 11:08am)

I think living a fulfilling life is more important than chasing the break. I agree, with my salary and bonus I'm still short of 100k but if I put in more time I could break that number. I care more about my personal time than maxing the dollar, though.

Quote (MildSambal @ 16 Mar 2025 12:11)

I think where we differ is that in your case, it's what's about what is convenient for you and still paying a comfortable salary

I'm sacrificing a comfortable salary to serve others when I could have a comfortable salary

Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 16 2025 11:12am)

Fair, I guess. Nobody but my family has cut me a break in life so I only really care about giving back to them and to my family if I have one in the future.

Quote (uskittles @ Mar 15 2025 04:22pm)

Every single one of them is more worthless than a common thief. They are the ultimate leech on society. If you think billionaires innovate: They do not. If you think billionaires create jobs: They don't.

Billionaires are serial frauds, thieves, and con-men.

If any billionaire appeals to you because of their politics or ideology just know this: It's fake. They couldn't care less if you died in a ditch if it meant their primary share holdings went up by 2 points.

And most importantly: They are all hell-bound. Matthew 19:16-28