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Mar 10 2025 07:22pm
You’re missing the point. You’re correct so I can’t blame you. Let me explain this a different way. The issue i have is what’s the point of playing the game and mfing to find items when I can just buy them in a week for next to nothing in fg. It’s simply not rewarding to find items when there are more bots than players and the economy is the same as non ladder in two weeks


the way I personally feel about it is why am I wasting my life mfing when a one person is running a thousand bots that each do it just as well
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Mar 10 2025 07:45pm
The items still have the same value in relation to each other. The only thing the changes is the fg/$ of an item

Shako is worth an Um rune. Doesn’t matter if Shako is 1fg or 100,000 fg, that means um is worth 1fg or 100,000fg. The only thing that is changing is the fg/$ value. This is what is called deflation. Where your money buys more things. It’s a good thing, no matter what central banks want you to believe


If fg value of items doesn’t matter then why you use bots in the first place. Clearly you’re after fg. You’re trying to justify your cheating by saying, “just let me cheat, you guys be happy playing legit.” At this point, we can clearly see your “cheap item economy” doesn’t work because 95% people already quit and no one is buying, everyone is selling.

So basically there is no demand which killed trading. If nobody is buying my items then why would I want to play this game. Majority people don’t think or agree with your idea. That’s why we have a dead game where a tiny amount of people still pvp.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Mar 10 2025 07:46pm
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Mar 10 2025 07:53pm
If fg value of items doesn’t matter then why you use bots in the first place. Clearly you’re after fg. You’re trying to justify your cheating by saying, “just let me cheat, you guys be happy playing legit.” At this point, we can clearly see your “cheap item economy” doesn’t work because 95% people already quit and no one is buying, everyone is selling.

So basically there is no demand which killed trading. If nobody is buying my items then why would I want to play this game. Majority people don’t think or agree with your idea. That’s why we have a dead game where a tiny amount of people still pvp.


Yeah and the other problem is that if you do buy something with fg it’s immediately devalued within hours to the point where you can never recoup it by mfing. Worse than driving a car off the lot. I honestly figured the botting wouldn’t be this bad after taking several years off of the game, but it’s worse than ever because of the ratio of legit players to bots
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Mar 10 2025 07:54pm
If you play the game, it sure does.

If you play jsp, then yes the bots beat you at jsp


jsp = PvP for PvMers

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Mar 10 2025 08:15pm
Think i gained 10lbs from eating too much popcorn
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Mar 10 2025 10:32pm
Faster bots = faster pve = faster pvp

pvpers need bots for cheaper pvp gear

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Mar 11 2025 01:09am
Faster bots = faster pve = faster pvp

pvpers need bots for cheaper pvp gear


Where are my 3/20/20 for 50 fog each?
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Mar 11 2025 02:23am
Valid arguments. Bots have certainly hurt the online aspect of this game and I truly wish it wasnt so. But.

Just a reminder for everyone that the game is still a lot of fun solo/self found.

Quiet literally 10,000x more fun building a character, actually going from crappy, to mid, to mid+ gear that way as opposed to: grush > chaos > baal > Oh let me get my gg gear.

There are other trading forums as well, idk if I can say them here (but you know) where you can trade items for items and those markets have lots of volume and the perceptively stable prices.

Inflation due to bots devalues items equally (for the most part). If you were to trade in-game youd be shocked at how stable prices/exchange rates for items/hrs are across ladder resets and across different time frames in resets.

Getting an item drop and near instantly swapping that into currency to then buy your own desired item isnt how this game was meant to be played or enjoyed.

Finding an amazing item drop like Shako should feel amazing irrespective of its price in FG terms.

If your finding of an item and its enjoyment is coming from its translated value/price/worth in FG youre playing this amazing game all wrong and I hope you can find a better game/use of your time.
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Mar 11 2025 02:45am
The items still have the same value in relation to each other. The only thing the changes is the fg/$ of an item

Shako is worth an Um rune. Doesn’t matter if Shako is 1fg or 100,000 fg, that means um is worth 1fg or 100,000fg. The only thing that is changing is the fg/$ value. This is what is called deflation. Where your money buys more things. It’s a good thing, no matter what central banks want you to believe


Why ppl keep spouting this nonsensical lie

In season 1 shako was worth Ist rune for the longest time… tal armor was worth Ohm rune…

Bots devalue runes compared to uniques.
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Mar 11 2025 09:36am
Faster bots = faster pve = faster pvp

pvpers need bots for cheaper pvp gear


You forgot about the part where people stop playing and PVP community gets smaller every year

PVE enables PVP by getting more people to install the game
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