It's actually when the fed starts lowering rates that the drops come historically. When fed is lowering rates that means the economy is slowing and needs to be stimulated with cheap funding. They usually panic and lower rates but by then it's kind of too late and the economy goes into a recession. But obviously there's exceptions, i.e. under Volker when he was hiking for a while, markets rolled over
For the average person, backbreaking inflation of 40+% over 4 years is way more hurtful than if paper assets nose dived. 50-60% have no 401k savings. Of those that do only like 30-40% contribute regularly.
Being able to buy a house, food and other things stopping from inflating are a lot more impactful vs market performance. I mean it was nice for us that have disposable incomes that we can toss into the markets and earn 20%+ a year, but most didn't really benefit, especially the ones that actually most need the help.
Long term though, the poor are still fucked, while those that own things will gobble up the wealth, that's why i think just keep adding week by week no matter what
This was an either or statement
1. All fed hiking cycles are accompanied with > 20% bear markets (crash)
2. All recessions are accompanied with the above as well
There has never been a US market crash without one of the above
The market can still go down if rates are going down but this is only when 2. (Recession) Is in effect
For example the last rate drop cycle (covid) was accompanied with a recession.
If you go back the to the 60s, fed drop cycles lead to corrections historically (not greater than 20%) but not crashes
This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 10 2025 03:06pm