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Mar 10 2025 06:25am

1. Tariffs are not a tax on the country the tariff is against, try reading a fucking book instead of reiterating trumps talking points. They are a tax on the companies (and later in the chain ofc the citizens) of the country issueing the tariff while hurting global trade.
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Tariffs are a tax on the country wtf do you mean? You want to trade with my country you pay a % tax on your goods. That's what a Tariff is.

I'll explain to you how they work.

Country X has 0% Tariff
Country Y has 25% Tariff

Country X's companies move operations to country Y to avoid the 25% Tax. Country X loses all the jobs from said company, while country Y gains those jobs.
Country X loses locality of said company, thus making prices of said company higher as the goods must be exported from Country Y back to Country X.
Country Y gains locality, as the goods are made in that nation and thus sold cheaper to the local and those closer to production than further out.

Then let's not even get into the more complex systems of Tariffs.

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Mar 10 2025 06:26am
Yeah, you don't value free speech. You value tyranny. As for the rest of your post it's to long, didn't read. Try to speak with less malice and I'll read your arguements.


As long as Trump takes away the rights and freedoms of the people you see as "woke" which is whatever he made up that day you will let him do whatever he wants.

He could shoot a baby on X live sponsored by blackrock and say it was woke and you would clap like a seal. Your brain is mush.

But feel free to show an example of something I've said today you think was incorrect with any source to back it up you want and I'll give it a good faith read I'm always open to being corrected on things.
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Mar 10 2025 06:39am
Tariffs are a tax on the country wtf do you mean? You want to trade with my country you pay a % tax on your goods. That's what a Tariff is.

I'll explain to you how they work.

Country X has 0% Tariff
Country Y has 25% Tariff

Country X's companies move operations to country Y to avoid the 25% Tax. Country X loses all the jobs from said company, while country Y gains those jobs.
Country X loses locality of said company, thus making prices of said company higher as the goods must be exported from Country Y back to Country X.
Country Y gains locality, as the goods are made in that nation and thus sold cheaper to the local and those closer to production than further out.

Then let's not even get into the more complex systems of Tariffs.


You claimed tariffs are a tax (which they are, paid for by the citizens of country Y in your example). That is plain and simple what a tariff is, and is exactly the opposite direction of what you claimed in your first post. If the EU issues a tax on US goods US citizens are not taxed, EU citizens are.


The result of tariffs can be wildly different - they can be what you described, they can just keep local companys competitive in a market they practically are not anymore (farming comes to mind) or are just a way to generate income for country Y from their own citizens.

Trump does not understand how tariffs work (or at least talks like he doesn't, impossible to distinguish since he lies every chance he gets). Do not use his talking points, it makes you look dumb and/or dishonest aswell.
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Mar 10 2025 06:40am
Tariffs are a tax on the country wtf do you mean? You want to trade with my country you pay a % tax on your goods. That's what a Tariff is.

I'll explain to you how they work.

Country X has 0% Tariff
Country Y has 25% Tariff

Country X's companies move operations to country Y to avoid the 25% Tax. Country X loses all the jobs from said company, while country Y gains those jobs.
Country X loses locality of said company, thus making prices of said company higher as the goods must be exported from Country Y back to Country X.
Country Y gains locality, as the goods are made in that nation and thus sold cheaper to the local and those closer to production than further out.

Then let's not even get into the more complex systems of Tariffs.


What if the USA and country Canada have a trade agreement where they will not place any tariffs on each other (small carve out here for dairy and like 2 other products)

Created together and agreed by all parties and then the US president makes up a fake emergency (fentanyl crossing the border) to place broad sweeping tariffs and remove them over and over again every couple of weeks without any real demands or reason?

Each time the US breaks this agreement Canada adds more retaliation and our president removes them again and again because he's crashing out stock market and gets scared.

Also he's dumb enough to put specific carve outs on certain us industries showing where we are the absolute weakest (oil, automotive, agriculture, Potash) making easy targets for Canada to find other buyers for those even if they lose a little money we would lose much more.

Art of the deal lose over and over and over gaining nothing and hurting his own citizens!

Side note there's a reason people don't use broad sweeping tariffs it doesn't work as well as your trying to say it does and leaves us vulnerable to targeted tariffs that cripple industries hereore than the broad ones benefit us. Example being the targeting of red state goods like alcohol and looking to find other buyers in Europe or China for the crude oil they sell us at a heavy discount which will hurt the US a massive amount if we lose access (we get 60-70% of our oil imports from Canada)
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Mar 10 2025 09:04am
As long as Trump takes away the rights and freedoms of the people you see as "woke" which is whatever he made up that day you will let him do whatever he wants.

He could shoot a baby on X live sponsored by blackrock and say it was woke and you would clap like a seal. Your brain is mush.

But feel free to show an example of something I've said today you think was incorrect with any source to back it up you want and I'll give it a good faith read I'm always open to being corrected on things.


Sorry, man is man and woman is woman. Murder is murder. I would not clap for murder, no. But you would aslong as it's "in the womb" even if the baby is 7-9 months into the pregnancy and can survive outside of the womb.
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Mar 10 2025 09:06am
You claimed tariffs are a tax (which they are, paid for by the citizens of country Y in your example). That is plain and simple what a tariff is, and is exactly the opposite direction of what you claimed in your first post. If the EU issues a tax on US goods US citizens are not taxed, EU citizens are.

The result of tariffs can be wildly different - they can be what you described, they can just keep local companys competitive in a market they practically are not anymore (farming comes to mind) or are just a way to generate income for country Y from their own citizens.

Trump does not understand how tariffs work (or at least talks like he doesn't, impossible to distinguish since he lies every chance he gets). Do not use his talking points, it makes you look dumb and/or dishonest aswell.


You just don't like orange man. Kid has cancer? We give him something nice? What do your politicians do: "Fuck that kid, booooo" like what the fuck?

I was a lifelong democrat until this election. Y'all gotta be smokin some shit if you can't see the evil of the party now.
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Mar 10 2025 09:29am
You just don't like orange man. Kid has cancer? We give him something nice? What do your politicians do: "Fuck that kid, booooo" like what the fuck?

I was a lifelong democrat until this election. Y'all gotta be smokin some shit if you can't see the evil of the party now.


Ironic

Trump cuts cancer research and bans "DEI" hiring for the jobs this kid wants and then pulls this stunt and you still clap. Clueless.

Also just lying again that Democrats bood the kid lol you live in a fantasy world where the truth doesn't matter as long as your dear leader says something.
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Mar 10 2025 09:42am
New USA government official Marco Rubio recently confirmed that Russia plans to eat whole Ukraine and border Poland, and the only thing stopping them currently from doing that are Elon Musk starlinks. Thanks Elon btw if you read me, starlinks are nice!
Like how you gonna make a diplomatic deal with a country that wants and plans to fully eat you?
I suspect the following deal: Ukraine gives up their military, making them defacto Russian vassals, while Russia do not officially annex them until a new USA democratic party president gets elected.
These way the republicans would be able to blame all bad on democrats, while in fact it was them who gave Putin Ukraine on a silver plate.
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Mar 10 2025 09:46am
Ironic

Trump cuts cancer research and bans "DEI" hiring for the jobs this kid wants and then pulls this stunt and you still clap. Clueless.

Also just lying again that Democrats bood the kid lol you live in a fantasy world where the truth doesn't matter as long as your dear leader says something.


DEI stands for Diversity, Equity and inclusion, yet mandates a specific amount of worker to be balanced on ethnicity, race, etc whilst ignoring demographics, population amounts of each demographic, disregards merit of each worker, and demands you hire "because they are xyz"

DEI is the same as jim crow laws.
Jim crow = Minorities are inferior so white/asian people get preference
DEI = Minorities are inferior so white/asian people don't get preference

It's the same racist bullshit mindset. MLK would NOT fight for DEI he would fight for meritocracy. The belief that you should be hired for simply being a woman, trans, black, or gay is bullshit.

You should be hired if you are the best suited candidate for the job.
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Mar 10 2025 10:00am
Oh you mean by Europe actually having a military instead of relying on daddy murica for everything security-wise, while tariffing the everliving shit out of them?
Meanwhile Europeans flexing free education, healthcare, good lives while the average joe in america eats ramens with crackers + grilled cheese and tomato soup to just barely get by.

If the U.S.A held a press conference tomorrow announcing it's complete withdraw of NATO and refusal to defend any other nation but itself, all of Europe would likely be conquered within a year.


Conquered by whom? The Russian army that couldn't conquer and hold more than 15% of Ukraine; In a war against the poorest country on the continent that was dripfed munitions for literally years and even starved of American supply for months.

Conquered by that army? Take a breather.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 10 2025 10:01am
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