Ofc not id hope they would stop the invasion and eject Putin in failure before that point in an ideal world.

More realistically they agree to some ceasefire and give back some land while likely keeping crimea and donbas luhansk areas and think twice before invading anyone else since they faced harsh pushback and it wasn't nearly as easy as they were expecting.

I assume if they are allowed to continue especially if the world provides less support to Ukraine they would next invade the Baltics (most likely) or Poland next and those are NATO counties. Id assume that could trigger actual hot water with Russia v NATO counties and nobody wants that surely.

Ukraine could never win that war. They tried hard and were supported by everybody the last 3 years. They had their counter-offensive chance but it failed horribly. Since the start of 2025, they've been losing hard. It's time to freeze the conflict and to rearm before all of the Ukraine is lost. The scenario you describe is if Ukraine totally fails then Russian army can steamroll Baltics. That we don't want both.

It costs me like $30 tax dollars a year to cripple imperialist Russia I'm willing to pay that

Not a socialist at all

Ukraine can't join NATO with ongoing border disputes etc so no go since 2014 pretty much no matter what Biden says.

Russia is the only one breaking an agreement when Ukraine gave up the nukes they had leftover from the fall of the USSR for a gurentee Russia would not invade

One once eastward reference was about German reunification and not broad europe

This post was edited by MasterHand on Mar 10 2025 04:30am

I could see this perspective they are definitely losing I don't deny that. The fact we see Putin ramping up attacks on civilians area during these peace talks show he surely isn't interested and currently the USA cutting off support is making it much easier for them to steamroll straight thru Ukraine and continue to the next place they choose while the US is showing weakness foreign and domestic atm this is sot of the dream scenario for Russia

How is our country choosing not to give away all our money to mindless, senseless and endless-(mind you their leader came seeking more funding, not peace negotiations)-endless war weakness?

How is our country's choice to deploy 10s of thousands of troops to our own border and focus on the invasion in our own nation rather than other nations domestic weakness?

This post was edited by fishbro on Mar 10 2025 04:49am

Mindless and endless is just ignorant and mostly explained above.

It's a miniscule amount of money in the grand scheme and most of it goes to our own country anyway.

The weakness comes in the form of threatening allies around the world daily destabilizing cohesion while helping our historic enemies by stopping intelligence sharing and air defences in Ukraine allowing Russia an easier time to kill many more civilians probably just what Putin asked for when they spoke.

Domestic wise we are focusing Autocracy and on ramping up inflation on ourselves and onshoring inefficient work while also deporting and preventing foreign workers from doing that work which we don't have enough labor to handle anyway.

Also extreme volitility and whiplash while breaking our own trade agreements is making our markets a little unhappy.

Were doing a speedrun of giving up world leader status to China it's sad to watch.

Deporting ILLEGALS not legal immigrants. How am I supposed to take you seriously like this?

A basic example of how illegal immigration harms the economy is like this:
2 restaurants in the neighboorhood
Johns hotdogs
Joes hotdogs

John hires 7 illegals and pays them $3/hour (20% of minimum wage)
Joe hires 7 legal immigrants and pays them $15/hour (minimum wage)

Joe's prices are now significantly higher than John's prices to off-set the higher labor cost
Joe's business goes under. 7 legal immigrants lose their jobs. 7 illegals keep their job at John.
John raises his prices. The illegals continue to work without pay increase. John get's richer.

Net result: 1 rich guy gets richer, 8 legal immigrants lose their means of income. This isn't factoring in the 7 other jobs legal migrants would fill under John's business vs the illegal's jobs.
Net total: 1 rich guy gets richer, 7 illegals get paid better than their home, they send the income to their homestate, and 15 citizens lose their means of income.

This post was edited by fishbro on Mar 10 2025 05:06am

I already hated you US fucks for voting the dumbest two billionaire loser clowns you could find into office, but now it's affecting most of the western world directly where it counts (i.e. the stock market, which all of you cleverly also tied your retirement funds to).

Let's hope some voters find their spine so in turn your republican loser politicians have to find theirs and you can get rid of the problem you voted for. Nobody will trust your shithlle country for the foreseeable future, but at least the "actively damaging everything the western world stood for since WW2" part can end.

350 billion is not "a miniscule amount of money". Is that you senor Trump? Small loan of a meeeliiion dollars?

U.S GDP is 27.8 trillion. The average state GDP is 556 billion. This is GDP aswell, not net profit, not money on hand, not available resources given away. This is total Gross Domestic Product. Think about that. It's a lot of money.

Let's not even bring up the 5+ trillion dollars already found in fraudulent schemes, non-profits with kickbacks, charity cases, blatant money laundering, and direct funding to terrorists.

Surely you europeans will imprison more people for facebook memes and virtue signal to americans how much better your life is than ours for decades, even while we prioritize our own instead of subsidizing your lavish lifestyles, no?

Y'know who else imprisoned people for dissenting opinions and disallowed free-speech? The Nazis.

This post was edited by fishbro on Mar 10 2025 05:13am