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Mar 6 2025 01:17pm
I can't do much more than agree... I was thinking this exact same thing!

The Art Of The Deal seem to be in place, and giving europe a reason (or "reason") to scale up their defense like this is truly awesome (and terrifying)!


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TDS has you in its grips


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Keep em coming gnarjay :thumbsup:
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Interesting. Was it his support of traditional relationships? The physical assault of those he didn’t agree with? The teaming up with members of the establishment? Advocating killing disobedient children? Asking his disciples to steal?

I can go on forever but let’s be real Jesus did some sketchy stuff if you’d like to have a literature discussion on it make a thread and I’ll entertain you for weeks.


It depends on how you're referring to Jesus, of course. If you're referring to the God of the Old Testament (who later came to earth in the body of Christ). But I do not necessarily follow everything in the old book because that's what makes us different than the Jews. We follow the words of Christ. This is why we are Christian. We have a different interpretation of the old book and we follow Jesus's teachings, those that are paralleled in the old book and those that go against them.
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It depends on how you're referring to Jesus, of course. If you're referring to the God of the Old Testament (who later came to earth in the body of Christ). But I do not necessarily follow everything in the old book because that's what makes us different than the Jews. We follow the words of Christ. This is why we are Christian. We have a different interpretation of the old book and we follow Jesus's teachings, those that are paralleled in the old book and those that go against them.


No im referring to things Jesus himself did not some trinity “through god” nonsense.
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No im referring to things Jesus himself did not some trinity “through god” nonsense.


Right. That is where I got my political beliefs and foundation. Through the words of Jesus and his teachings. Asking his disciples to steal is not a problem for me. Killing disobedient children obviously is.

Jesus didn't teach for us to use violence against those we disagree with. Are you talking about the sword analogy? I prefer the interpretation of coming to bring the sword as a metaphor. Not meant to be a literal call for violence but rather coming to accept that believing his teachings and spreading his word will separate (even family) you from others and may cause violence itself.
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Mar 6 2025 01:25pm
Even if we take that interpretation to be literal there's more instances of Jesus choosing peace over violence, by magnitudes.
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Mar 6 2025 01:27pm
Jesus is why I am a leftist. His teachings led me to my political beliefs I have today.

Can you explain to me what exactly does Jesus teach that goes against leftist ideology? Or do you just have a blatant misunderstanding of left/right politics and the scripture? Because as far as I can tell Jesus would be a leftist in today's modern era. I genuinely believe this. You can think otherwise. But he gave to those in need. He taught us to love our neighbors. He told us the rich were wicked.


Please explain to me how on earth Jesus portrays a woke mindset?
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Please explain to me how on earth Jesus portrays a woke mindset?


If you translate his teachings into political arguments they often are aligned with left-wing ideology and not right-wing. But there are exceptions. I do not believe in the whole left versus right dichotomy as good vs bad, or even really think it should stay around.

I have quoted Jesus Christ and been labeled a "liberal" or a "commie" and the irony is hilarious to me. When I came to that conclusion if quoting Jesus himself causes hateful and ignorant people to call you a socialist or communist, maybe socialism is the answer and what Jesus would've taught.
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Mar 6 2025 01:31pm
Here is a nice one for you. A lot in this one:

Start on Mark 7 and read til about 20 or so.

1. Eating without washing your hands.

2. Calling people hypocrites while also teaching people to not call others hypocrites.

3. Killing children who do not honor their father or mother. (disobedient)

3 things in one sliver of a section would have most WOKE people thinking you are not welcome in polite society.

(I believe in God. I think comparing Jesus to modern society is silly though because even he was HARDCORE CONSERVATIVE by todays standards and it’s just a silly comparison.

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If you translate his teachings into political arguments they often are aligned with left-wing ideology and not right-wing. But there are exceptions. I do not believe in the whole left versus right dichotomy as good vs bad, or even really think it should stay around.

I have quoted Jesus Christ and been labeled a "liberal" or a "commie" and the irony is hilarious to me. When I came to that conclusion if quoting Jesus himself causes hateful and ignorant people to call you a socialist or communist, maybe socialism is the answer and what Jesus would've taught.


You have a great misunderstanding.

Let's start with 1 example. God created 2 genders, but leftists push for this endless gender ideology and you can be whatever you want.

How do these 2 things line up?
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