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Mar 6 2025 11:47am
10 commandments..


There is nothing in the 10 commandments about abortion. Man, you really should read the bible more often. I am giving you actual scripture. Numbers 5:18~. Get out your book and read it.
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Mar 6 2025 11:49am
Future generations will likely look back on children with down's syndrome, missing limbs, heart defects, or fetal alcohol syndrome being born has a horrible tragedy. if we go far enough into the future i doubt children will be carried to term by most people. they'll be cooked up in an incubator.
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Mar 6 2025 11:53am
Future generations will likely look back on children with down's syndrome, missing limbs, heart defects, or fetal alcohol syndrome being born has a horrible tragedy. if we go far enough into the future i doubt children will be carried to term by most people. they'll be cooked up in an incubator.


There's a huge moral dilemma already in this because doctors have found ways to detect some kind of diseases and defects at the earliest stages of life. It's such a messy subject that I have no way to breach it.
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Mar 6 2025 11:55am
There is no hard stance against abortion in the scripture.

It has a hard stance against murder. Exodus 20:13

Proverbs 6:16 covers abortions.

"Things that the Lord hates, hands that shed innocent blood"
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Mar 6 2025 11:59am
It has a hard stance against murder. Exodus 20:13

Proverbs 6:16 covers abortions.

"Things that the Lord hates, hands that shed innocent blood"


Again, there is nothing about abortion specifically. I gave an instance where abortion is mentioned in the bible and it is clearly used as a punishment against adultery. This is as close as we get in scripture. Anything else is just Evangelicals telling me what to believe and how to interrupt the word of God. I don't buy it. And I venture to bet I read the bible more than the average Evangelical.
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Mar 6 2025 12:00pm
Again, there is nothing about abortion specifically. I gave an instance where abortion is mentioned in the bible and it is clearly used as a punishment against adultery. This is as close as we get in scripture. Anything else is just Evangelicals telling me what to believe and how to interrupt the word of God. I don't buy it. And I venture to bet I read the bible more than the average Evangelical.


this argument is pretty flimsy.

god said not to shed innocent blood.

this would be akin to god saying "do not eat fruit", and you responding "he didnt say oranges specifically".
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Mar 6 2025 12:07pm
Again, there is nothing about abortion specifically. I gave an instance where abortion is mentioned in the bible and it is clearly used as a punishment against adultery. This is as close as we get in scripture. Anything else is just Evangelicals telling me what to believe and how to interrupt the word of God. I don't buy it. And I venture to bet I read the bible more than the average Evangelical.

I gave two scriptures that cover abortions. Exodus specifically states murder, don't do it. Proverbs covers the shedding of innocent blood, which is certainly what an abortion is.
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Mar 6 2025 12:09pm
this argument is pretty flimsy.

god said not to shed innocent blood.

this would be akin to god saying "do not eat fruit", and you responding "he didnt say oranges specifically".


The argument that abortion is shedding innocent blood is pretty flimsy, as well. It really comes down to when you believe a person is a person and when life becomes life. I do not believe an egg or a sperm is a person just because it has the potential to be a person.

Again, and I always have to repeat this: The one case where abortion is specifically mentioned, it is permitted by God as a curse against adultery.
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Mar 6 2025 12:10pm
I gave two scriptures that cover abortions. Exodus specifically states murder, don't do it. Proverbs covers the shedding of innocent blood, which is certainly what an abortion is.


Again, I am going to repeat myself over and over to this. The only part in scripture where abortion is specifically stated. What we consider ABORTION: Is Numbers 5. You can read as many translation as you want for this one but I think it is pretty clear.
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Mar 6 2025 12:12pm
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[c] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[e] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”
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