So wait, what you're claiming now is that because some old people have young people living with them, the young people now need to be locked in with the old people, because that'll somehow magically stop the young person from giving the old person the cold?

You haven't thought your position through, have you?

Lockdowns were stupid from the start, did FAR more harm than good, and there's zero evidence that lockdowns saved a single elderly person. Quite the contrary, all evidence points to a very large number of elderly patients DYING because hospitals were refusing to provide needed non-covid related care.

I am 100% in favor of Europe getting a hard-won wake up call.

News fucking flash: Putin is not your worst enemy. It is your own government, it is yourselves. Europe primarily spread civilization around the globe through imperialism, resisted Soviet communism, and then decided to collectively commit civilizational suicide by forgetting to have your own kids, importing unlimited invaders to pay for your retirees, and being too scared to prosecute them when they rape and murder you, but are more than happy to throw white people in jail for praying, or trolling on facebook. You deserve a massive revolution, but you don't have the balls. I have no sympathy for people who live in a bubble of delusion and refuse to help themselves, therefore, I delight at the idea of Putin running roughshod over every single one of you. Reap what you sow.

This post was edited by Thebarba on Mar 4 2025 09:35am

You need a contact to spread the virus, the less contact there is, the slower virus rollout. Any and every contact counts. That's what we needed at this time, a slower rollout so that hospitals dont get full.
Also the young people dont need to stay at home, they could participate in outdoor activities for example, do sports, go to work, and there are plenty of things to do on the internet.

And nobody is arguing with a single word of the bolded part. We agree. Which is why the elderly and feeble should have exercised PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and made the choice for THEMSELVES to VOLUNTARILY quarantine.

The absolute best thing that could possibly have happened? The young all go out, get infected in the first month. The cold mutates, and future strains are less lethal to the old an feeble. Meanwhile, the self-quarantining feeble may receive some vaccine or therapeutic should they be unfortunate enough to contract the cold.

And no, most businesses were closed, most parks were closed, cops were fucking pulling us over demanding to know why we were on the roads. The lockdowns were rabid, damaged the economy, harmed children's education, cost millions of jobs and ended with over a million small businesses closing their doors permanently.

And not a single elderly person was saved.

So which is it? Are you a self-obsessed boomer, or a useful idiot?

Usually the virus mutates in less lethal direction because a virus "dies" together when infected person dies, so its better for them not to kill their victim.
Hovewer with only 5% death rate it isn't important factor, so we couldnt predict how would virus evolve. And the vaccine was not a month ahead but 2 years.
The government didnt know the exact nature of the virus, and what would happen so they adopted careful "wait & see" and lets see reports from somewhere else.
Another factor, humanity requires from us that we make attempts to save people. Whether it actually helped or not.

5% death rate? Fatality rate from covid was nowhere near even 1%. Why are you throwing out bullshit numbers?

And EVERYONE knew the exact nature of the virus. It's a coronavirus. We knew how it was spread, we knew it's dormancy time (2 weeks standard, up to a month in some cases), we also knew there was no realistic way to contain it.

Coronaviruses are common. All of them share all their basic features in common. The only thing we really didn't know about covid was how to treat it.

Best way to treat it? A Z Pack, Ivermectin, and monoclonal antibodies. The mRNA shot was a shot in the dark that missed and hit the poor lady who was walking her cat. Didn't provide immunity, didn't provide resistance, didn't impact the spread or the virus in any way. Just like the lockdowns.

Honestly, "we didn't know anything about it!" Yes we did. We knew a HUGE amount about it, right down to the fact that it was lab-produced, as Taiwan pointed out and showed the evidence of back in December 2019.

You're so ignorant on this subject it's almost wild that you bother talking about it at all.

Go enjoy your smoke and mirrors, kiddo. Useful idiot is clearly the answer.

What I don’t get… is the repeated comments by EU leaders saying a lasting peace in Ukraine is not possible without the US all the while repeatedly trying to piss Trump off.

Are people from the EU this self destructive and knowledgeable of it? Or am I missing something? Regardless the world knows Trump is stubborn and narcissistic so telling him you need him while also defying him is a terrible idea. In fact, any intelligent politician would try to somehow appease this guy with the least amount of “making themselves look bad” as possible.

If you need someone (Macron, Starmer and Zelensky have all stated this) then try to make sure their interests are also taken into account.

Look, I don’t trust Putin(not that I trust Ukraine either) he has proven historically that he despises the US and our way of life but if the US keeps giving and giving to other nations while receiving nothing in return and all the while some of our own citizens are suffering financially I consider that a crime against humanity as well.

Europes’s solution is “Let the American people suffer and pay the bill”… I say… screw that.

EU is greedy. They want to make the Benjamins while letting US do the heavy lifting in Defense.
It works if the US economy is Booming, no ideological BS spreading around like flies, BLM, Woke, illegal immigrants etc etc etc.

But alas it is no longer that situation. And EU is incredibly stupid..
They seem to not understand that USA can always retreat across the Atlantic but EU have to live with Russia as a Neighbour for the next 1000 years.

And if they try dislodge the Russians now they will get some nice Nukes. Poland will be obliterated as a start.
Seriously, I wonder why people do not look at the map of the world and Europe before they start some stupid drama.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Mar 4 2025 10:37am

Are you American? If not kindly shut the hell up about my country and its culture. Thanks. I don't want any illegals talking about my illegals like that.

You wish you can migrate to mine.