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Mar 4 2025 08:27am
Well, if I put everything together, we got:

Infinity setup:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/mt4p20nw

Merc:

Attack
Damage: 6645–16,336
Attack Rate: 10 frames (2.5 hits per second)
Damage per Second: 26,701
Attack: 26,701
Crushing Blow: up to 1178 damage per second
Time to kill: 0.19 seconds

CE

Corpse Explosion – Level 35
Damage: 7007–12,011
Physical Damage: tel:3548%E2%80%9360823548–6082[/URL]
Fire Damage: tel:3459%E2%80%9359293459–5929[/URL]
Cast Rate: 9 frames (2.78 casts per second)

Ebotd gface setup:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/xp4p50nf

Merc:

Attack
Damage: 8054–20,135
Attack Rate: 9 frames (2.78 hits per second)
Damage per Second: 34,601
Attack: 34,601
Crushing Blow: up to 947 damage per second
Time to kill: 0.14 seconds

CE

Corpse Explosion – Level 35
Damage: tel:5499%E2%80%9394275499–9427[/URL]
Physical Damage: tel:3548%E2%80%9360823548–6082[/URL]
Fire Damage: tel:1951%E2%80%9333451951–3345[/URL]
Cast Rate: 9 frames (2.78 casts per second)

Not sure but look like less CE (fire dmg only) but more Merc dmg.


It’s really not only about the numbers…

We are talking low players count. Everything will be dying / exploding quickly anyway. The limiting factor (if any) is how quickly you can get the first corpse.

So it’s a good idea to focus on QoL instead. Faster teleporting, snappier fcr for curses, bigger curse / CE radius. And less fg spent.

Btw., I agree that for higher players count the standard beast/infinity setup is better. Also, for higher players count poison necro is better.

This post was edited by kayko on Mar 4 2025 08:30am
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Mar 4 2025 08:36am
It’s really not only about the numbers…

We are talking low players count. Everything will be dying / exploding quickly anyway. The limiting factor (if any) is how quickly you can get the first corpse.

So it’s a good idea to focus on QoL instead. Faster teleporting, snappier fcr for curses, bigger curse / CE radius. And less fg spent.

Btw., I agree that for higher players count the standard beast/infinity setup is better. Also, for higher players count poison necro is better.


Why are y’all even arguing over a p1-3 setup? Literally no reason to ever run lower player count outside of a hork barb
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Mar 4 2025 08:46am
Well, if I put everything together, we got:

Infinity setup:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/mt4p20nw

Merc:

Attack
Damage: 6645–16,336
Attack Rate: 10 frames (2.5 hits per second)
Damage per Second: 26,701
Attack: 26,701
Crushing Blow: up to 1178 damage per second
Time to kill: 0.19 seconds

CE

Corpse Explosion – Level 35
Damage: 7007–12,011
Physical Damage: tel:3548%E2%80%9360823548–6082[/URL]
Fire Damage: tel:3459%E2%80%9359293459–5929[/URL]
Cast Rate: 9 frames (2.78 casts per second)

Ebotd gface setup:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/xp4p50nf

Merc:

Attack
Damage: 8054–20,135
Attack Rate: 9 frames (2.78 hits per second)
Damage per Second: 34,601
Attack: 34,601
Crushing Blow: up to 947 damage per second
Time to kill: 0.14 seconds

CE

Corpse Explosion – Level 35
Damage: tel:5499%E2%80%9394275499–9427[/URL]
Physical Damage: tel:3548%E2%80%9360823548–6082[/URL]
Fire Damage: tel:1951%E2%80%9333451951–3345[/URL]
Cast Rate: 9 frames (2.78 casts per second)

Not sure but look like less CE (fire dmg only) but more Merc dmg.


Wrong comparison I’m afraid

1) the infinity setup is missing 40ed in merc helm

2) the botd setup is still showed with beast (more dmg and more ias than it should)

The real result?
Infinity setup is a lot more merc dmg snd a lot more CE dmg.
Not even close.
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Mar 4 2025 08:48am
Why are y’all even arguing over a p1-3 setup? Literally no reason to ever run lower player count outside of a hork barb


not everyone has p8 emotional support :(
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Mar 4 2025 08:50am
Why are y’all even arguing over a p1-3 setup? Literally no reason to ever run lower player count outside of a hork barb


Damn, did you just called out Sins for optimizing for p3 build. You guys need to plan this better.

Playing psn instead.

All those who contest my build are just trying to make it work on p8.
Its not made for that.
It is however fully optimized for p1 to p3.




This post was edited by Tarisus on Mar 4 2025 08:50am
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Mar 4 2025 08:52am
Damn, did you just called out Sins for optimizing for p3 build. You guys need to plan this better.


Plan what out? The world isn’t out to get you lil fella.
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Mar 4 2025 08:53am
Plan what out? The world isn’t out to get you lil fella.


Why you hating on Sins for optimizing for p3 build.
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Mar 4 2025 08:58am
Wrong comparison I’m afraid

1) the infinity setup is missing 40ed in merc helm

2) the botd setup is still showed with beast (more dmg and more ias than it should)

The real result?
Infinity setup is a lot more merc dmg snd a lot more CE dmg.
Not even close.


I don’t know about the numbers above but I checked separately and eBotD has basically the same damage as infinity + beast. And it has higher dmg vs undead.

But, as I mentioned above, bigger number is not always better. Other factors matter more for low players count.
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Mar 4 2025 09:00am
Why you hating on Sins for optimizing for p3 build.

Why are you trying so hard to fail at stirring up drama? I disagree with sins a bunch but we just don’t get butt hurt over it and hold grudges unlike some people ;)
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Why are you trying so hard to fail at stirring up drama? I disagree with sins a bunch but we just don’t get butt hurt over it and hold grudges unlike some people ;)


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