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Mar 4 2025 03:15am
You've brought up quite an interesting topic. The development of rare earth metals (there are 17 of them, I believe, and not all are found in Ukraine, except for scandium) would be more expensive than oil in terms of production costs. Considering the associated difficulties and dumping by China, it could even become unprofitable. Thus, filling a fund of 1 trillion dollars (with 500 billion being a priority for the U.S.) would take more than just decades. This suggests that such an agreement represents the best security guarantee for Ukraine, given the U.S.'s vested interest. Even if it might seem like an exploitative deal from the outside. Now, regarding gas. At the beginning of this year, the contracts that have fueled the war for the past 3 years expired, but they were not terminated on the first day of invasion, such a hypocrisy. Starting from 2025, gas will only flow through the "Turkish Stream." That means there will be no supplies elsewhere this year. Sudzha, Kursk Oblast, Ukraine's invasion- what a convenient coincidence, don't you think?


I said you cannot expect european people to cancel contracts on day1. Because we needed gas to heat, we needed fuel to run our cars.
We did everything we could to switch asap, but day 1 was impossible.
Also there are a few Putin friends in EU that still keep buying Russian stuff, EU is ~27 different countries.
Russia helps their friends to get elected, and Russia friends help Russia murder Ukrainians, this is how it works.
Fortunately mostly europeans are smart enough not to elect Russia friends, but there were some failures where Putin managed to influence elections.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Mar 4 2025 03:40am
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Mar 4 2025 03:35am
We have prosecutions of political opponents by a crooked justice system and by police. If the leading candidate in presidential election wins it will be even worse, because whole power will be concentrated in one party’s hands. And lying is not about better pizza but about representing Polish interests while in fact the policies being forced are in the German interest.

Not really sure what’s your point here? And how aware are you of Polish affairs?


I'm very well aware as I'm polish :)
Previous government broke the law on regular basis, so they need to be prosecuted.
There is indeed some legal chaos in Poland now, but this is because of PiS president Duda, who błocks any attempts to fix the situation after the previous PiS government.
The previous government had the full power, and used it to make chaos in the country. They damaged the legal system.
I know PiS uses strong words, for example they used to call their current Radio Maryja friends "russian agents".
Whoever they dont like they call as either "russian agents" or "german agents".
Not cool, but what can one do about it? Not much, not much. Just dont listen to them.
I fully support and trust the current government PM, although of course they arent perfect, and there were some things that previous government did properly (in example social support for poor people, support for Ukraine)

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I'm very kurde aware as I'm polish :)
Previous government broke the law on regular basis, so they need to be prosecuted.
There is indeed some legal chaos in Poland now, but this is because of PiS president Duda, who błocks any attempts to fix the situation after the previous PiS government.
The previous government had the full power, and used it to make chaos in the country.
I know PiS uses strong words, for example they used to call their current Radio Maryja friends "russian agents".
Whoever they dont like they call as either "russian agents" or "german agents".
Not cool, but what can one do about it? Not much, not much. Just dont listen to them.


Well, I won’t engage in a PiS/PO slap-fight with you :) That’s what mainstream media does and it misses the point, that both of these parties are very harmful to Poland. The differences are overblown but when it comes to signing the green deals or lockdowns or any other meaningful policies, both PiS and PO do the same thing.
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Mar 4 2025 05:01am
Well, I won’t engage in a PiS/PO slap-fight with you :) That’s what mainstream media does and it misses the point, that both of these parties are very harmful to Poland. The differences are overblown but when it comes to signing the green deals or lockdowns or any other meaningful policies, both PiS and PO do the same thing.

Not right.

One cannot trade with "Green EU" without being green. So even if we leave EU, as far right wingers says, we still need to get green.
And the Europe wants to be green because we/they dont want to burn the planet. Who should lead the way if not the advanced people of Europe? USA elected a climate denialist sadly, Russia prefers to do wars.

Lockdowns - perspective was different for different age groups. We had a virus that was deadly to older people, and harmless to young people. In such situation the younger population should accept some temporary limits to slow the spread of virus.
Why you cant think about others, older people, I don't know, why you so selfish.
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Mar 4 2025 05:12am
Not right.

One cannot trade with "Green EU" without being green. So even if we leave EU, as far right wingers says, we still need to get green.
And the Europe wants to be green because we/they dont want to burn the planet. Who should lead the way if not the advanced people of Europe? USA elected a climate denialist sadly, Russia prefers to do wars.

Lockdowns - perspective was different for different age groups. We had a virus that was deadly to older people, and harmless to young people. In such situation the younger population should accept some temporary limits to slow the spread of virus.
Why you cant think about others, older people, I don't know, why you so selfish.


Omg, incredible.

It’s 2025 and you still believe all these things… :blink:
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Omg, incredible.

It’s 2025 and you still believe all these things… :blink:


Do you think what we are seeing on this board is a butthurt belter rift, or just a libshit ideology.
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Do you think what we are seeing on this board is a butthurt belter rift, or just a libshit ideology.

I think it might have something to do with this:

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled”
-Mark Twain, supposedly
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Not right.

One cannot trade with "Green EU" without being green. So even if we leave EU, as far right wingers says, we still need to get green.
And the Europe wants to be green because we/they dont want to burn the planet. Who should lead the way if not the advanced people of Europe? USA elected a climate denialist sadly, Russia prefers to do wars.

Lockdowns - perspective was different for different age groups. We had a virus that was deadly to older people, and harmless to young people. In such situation the younger population should accept some temporary limits to slow the spread of virus.
Why you cant think about others, older people, I don't know, why you so selfish.


"We had to give infants and very young children developmental disorders, and ruin the lives of the productive in society so that we could keep the most amount pensioners possible collecting their welfare checks, and sucking up healthcare"

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I said you cannot expect european people to cancel contracts on day1. Because we needed gas to heat, we needed fuel to run our cars.
We did everything we could to switch asap, but day 1 was impossible.
Also there are a few Putin friends in EU that still keep buying Russian stuff, EU is ~27 different countries.
Russia helps their friends to get elected, and Russia friends help Russia murder Ukrainians, this is how it works.
Fortunately mostly europeans are smart enough not to elect Russia friends, but there were some failures where Putin managed to influence elections.


You did everything to switch? Trump told EU leaders during his FIRST term that Europe needed to jumpstart their own refineries and find other sources of energy than Russia and your leadership laughed at him.

Turns out, you should have listened to the orange man. He gave great advice, and now you're so backed into a corner on energy you're seeking any possible solution to the Ukraine/Russia situation that will give you even a sliver of control over LNG and oil supplies.

You deserve no control. You had all the time in the world. Hell, Germany and France were net exporters of energy with their nuclear plants. Why'd Germany shut down all it's plants, so that less than 2% of it's generation is now nuclear? Why did France start shutting down plants to the point that they went from generating 300% of their own needed power from nuclear to a mere 62% (as of 2023) with the goal to have it down to 50% by this year?

Nobody in Europe has tried to find alternative sources for electricity. You've been sucking Putin's sphincter for power all in some fake as fuck "we're going green" bullshit play for over a decade.

Lockdowns - perspective was different for different age groups. We had a virus that was deadly to older people, and harmless to young people. In such situation the younger population should accept some temporary limits to slow the spread of virus.
Why you cant think about others, older people, I don't know, why you so selfish.


This is one of the dumbest fucking things anyone has ever put to text in PaRD. Like, EVER. The young and healthy do all the work to make all the products from food to energy to clothes to you name it. Young people need to work, young people need an education. The entire future of the human species relies on young people NOT being restricted.

The elderly could choose to stay in their own homes, live nice comfortable lives, take delivery of goods, and never risk exposure to covid. The world doesn't need them to exist to keep functioning. The world doesn't stop for old people. Old people shift their habits to continue surviving in spite of the fact that they're past the point of usefulness.

Why you're claiming those under retirement age should EVER accept any form of lockdown because some cold may harm the retirement age people is completely backwards.

Points directly at the selfish, self-obsessed nature of boomers vs the greatest generation. The Greatest Generation was willing to sacrifice everything to build a better world for their children, the boomers, to thrive in. The Boomers are willing to shut down the entire world and lock down their children over fear of a fucking cold. It's absurd, and the fact that you promoted their nonsensical bullshit says you're either a boomer, or a useful idiot. No other option exists.

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This is one of the dumbest fucking things anyone has ever put to text in PaRD. Like, EVER. The young and healthy do all the work to make all the products from food to energy to clothes to you name it. Young people need to work, young people need an education. The entire future of the human species relies on young people NOT being restricted.

The elderly could choose to stay in their own homes, live nice comfortable lives, take delivery of goods, and never risk exposure to covid. The world doesn't need them to exist to keep functioning. The world doesn't stop for old people. Old people shift their habits to continue surviving in spite of the fact that they're past the point of usefulness.

Why you're claiming those under retirement age should EVER accept any form of lockdown because some cold may harm the retirement age people is completely backwards.

Points directly at the selfish, self-obsessed nature of boomers vs the greatest generation. The Greatest Generation was willing to sacrifice everything to build a better world for their children, the boomers, to thrive in. The Boomers are willing to shut down the entire world and lock down their children over fear of a fucking cold. It's absurd, and the fact that you promoted their nonsensical bullshit says you're either a boomer, or a useful idiot. No other option exists.


The old people often share houses with their children, possibly the children are helping them. Or the grandparents help take care of grandchildren.
Also not everything could be bought online and delivered.
Also the old people needed to go out to see their doctor from time to time.
So your plan, while interesting, has some problems

This post was edited by Ironfister on Mar 4 2025 09:29am
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