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Feb 27 2025 11:37am
20ene + 33% regen + 5maek is literally more than half your mana regen.

I have never seen the hp bar of my IG drop below 100% with this build (he is immunes to 3 elements and protected by skellies)

If you cast bone armor, you just lost time. Don’t.

Use it if you want lol
You’ll lose more time picking up mana pots than the 0,3s you saved in town.
It doesn’t change the core of the build.
But its definitely not as good.


yeah, you can have your opinion
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Feb 27 2025 11:39am
yeah, you can have your opinion


Correction, it’s your opinion vs proven facts
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Feb 27 2025 11:40am
Correction, it’s your opinion vs proven facts


lol, we are done here, kid :)
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Feb 27 2025 11:40am
Just a summon necro that uses ce

Aka the standard build, it’s dumb that it has a different name


Lol ty, that is how I've always played a summoner. I just keep seeing the name and wondered wtf everyone was talking about
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Feb 27 2025 11:44am
lol, we are done here, kid :)


Yeah the thread was done after post #6
We’re just having fun now ;)

Lol ty, that is how I've always played a summoner. I just keep seeing the name and wondered wtf everyone was talking about


Yeah all summoners should be played this way, but the name stayed since A LOT of players still play pure summoner without CE.
Or they think that summons are supposed to do dmg, they let them spread around and use items such as bramble lol
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Yeah the thread was done after post #6
We’re just having fun now ;)



Yeah all summoners should be played this way, but the name stayed since A LOT of players still play pure summoner without CE.
Or they think that summons are supposed to do dmg, they let them spread around and use items such as bramble lol


Haha for sure! RIP my notifications had push enabled gawd damn.

Every one get those +1

This post was edited by Silfvy on Feb 27 2025 11:46am
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Feb 27 2025 11:49am
Haha for sure! RIP my notifications had push enabled gawd damn.

Every one get those +1


Thanks for sharing the +1s t4t
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Feb 27 2025 12:37pm
Fishymancers op
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Bloody good info mate.
Clearly a lot of thought (and experience) behind each item.

Might give this a crack next season.

Sidenote to everyone: I reckon 'Fishymancer' is a dumb name. Does old mate Necro work the docks as a side hustle? I think summon necro should inherently mean the CE/Summon build.
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Feb 27 2025 03:52pm
Why FF?
1) It gives +3CE and -15% fire res, no other item can boost your dmg that much.
2) it fixes your fire res and makes all your summons immune to fire, which is the only thing that sometimes kill them. Often saves your iron golem.
3) Instead of using a 15ias/30fire in your merc's andy, he can now use a 15/40 instead. Very important buff for faster first kill before you can chain your buffed CE.

Why beast and not hoto?
1) You don't benefit at all from +skills at that point. Summons are just a meat shield.
2) It's useless to aim for 125fcr, you gotta telestomp and wait a sec for your merc to get a kill before you can cast CE. Even if you 'could' cast faster, you wouldn't have a corpse.
3) Max res is already reached easily, and its seriously not that much needed, your meat shield makes you impossible to kill.
4) It literally doubles your merc kill speed -> allowing to use GPA infinity for the optimized dps (reaching better fpa with a higher base dmg)

I heard some youtuber named cOoLeY say that bramble is better on merc?
1) hahahahahaha
2) his comparison is exclusively vs diablo. Here's why he is completely wrong :
Bosses deal 4x dmg vs summons.
Thorns effectively returns 4x more dmg then...
If diablo lands a hit (not a spell) vs one of your summons, he will effectively lose a lot of hp.
But for this to work, you absolutely need to use the fire golem, else he will aggro your merc, not your summons.
Not using IG = dogshit
And let's just have a good laugh at how much slower the overall clear speed is vs mobs if your use bramble instead of fort.
Reminder : this is a build made for density destroying, not target killing diablo.
CE cost 50 to 60 mana per cast, good luck trying to sustain without IG's insight.




Yet another person proving you don’t know what you are talking about.
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