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Feb 19 2025 03:40pm
Since you see so many Trump supporters happy about the defunding of national parks and their federal workers.

If you put all else aside, he was a very progressive candidate for his time. Whether it be government reformation or labor reform (on the side of labor rights). He has many qualities of candidates like Bernie Sanders today and less qualities like your typical Republican.


See, this simply isn't true. The Republican party at large have ALWAYS been on the cutting edge of pushing workers rights. To the point of ending slavery. Like, what are you talking about?

Government reform? Republican.

If you wanted to talk about "national parks" we could go there. The Federal Government was only allowed Washington DC. 3 States were bullied into ceding DC to the Federal Government, to prevent any one State from gaining control over the Federal Government.

Fast forward to today, and due to creative uses of waterways acts, redefining Tribal land as "federal" land, etc. the Federal Government now directly owns 1/3rd (nearly, it's 28%) of the land in the United States. Something neither guaranteed in nor allowed by the Constitution. That percentage was less than 1% during Teddy's time.

The idea that the Federal Government is going to steal all the land and resources from the States, then NOT use it productively, then steal the wealth of the citizenry to "tend" that land only to have it all go up in flames in wildfires every year is absurd. That IS a progressive ideal. It is NOT a Republican, or conservative ideal.

It's not that Republicans OR Trump supporters don't want to see Federal "parks" properly tended. We don't agree they should be "Federal" land at all.
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Feb 19 2025 05:05pm
If he was alive today Teddy Roosevelt would be deeply ashamed at the state of both parties, and would get to work solving the issues we face to the best of his ability, regardless of how anyone felt about his solutions.

Unfortunately, no one on either side would vote for him today. We, the people, are the problem. The candidates are merely symptoms.
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Feb 19 2025 05:41pm
If he was alive today Teddy Roosevelt would be deeply ashamed at the state of both parties, and would get to work solving the issues we face to the best of his ability, regardless of how anyone felt about his solutions.

Unfortunately, no one on either side would vote for him today. We, the people, are the problem. The candidates are merely symptoms.


I can't speak for either "side". I can tell you that I'd vote for Teddy as a followup to Trump in a heartbeat. Sarah says she would too.

Honestly, I don't believe he'd have a hard time winning. His hatred for government corruption would lead him to wreck half the departments of the Federal government. Far more so than even Trump/DOGE is doing. It'd be nice.
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Feb 19 2025 05:46pm
I hate threads like this. Every person with any basic historical knowledge knows that the Republicans and Democrats used to be polar opposite of what they are now. This started happening in the early 1900s and solidified in the 30s.
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Feb 19 2025 05:57pm
I hate threads like this. Every person with any basic historical knowledge knows that the Republicans and Democrats used to be polar opposite of what they are now. This started happening in the early 1900s and solidified in the 30s.


Nonsense. Democrats, the party of slavery, if the KKK, if Jim Crow laws, redlining, big government, big taxes, and progressive ideals, have never shifted in the slightest. They're the same thing they were in Teddy's day. Just now, rather than trying to use monopolies to guarantee the subjugation of the worker, they simply outsource their jobs to nations like China where they can once again literally use slave labor for pennies on the dollar. You do know that the marxist movement, AKA "progressivism" was alive and well during Teddy's time, and he fought against it, right? Progressives and democrats have been trying to relabel themselves constantly to come across as something other than what they are since the Civil War. And none of it is true. :)
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Feb 19 2025 06:14pm
Nonsense. Democrats, the party of slavery, if the KKK, if Jim Crow laws, redlining, big government, big taxes, and progressive ideals, have never shifted in the slightest. They're the same thing they were in Teddy's day. Just now, rather than trying to use monopolies to guarantee the subjugation of the worker, they simply outsource their jobs to nations like China where they can once again literally use slave labor for pennies on the dollar. You do know that the marxist movement, AKA "progressivism" was alive and well during Teddy's time, and he fought against it, right? Progressives and democrats have been trying to relabel themselves constantly to come across as something other than what they are since the Civil War. And none of it is true. :)


Funny dom, all the KKK members and white supremacists seem to be firm republican voters, why is that?
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Feb 19 2025 06:35pm
I can't speak for either "side". I can tell you that I'd vote for Teddy as a followup to Trump in a heartbeat. Sarah says she would too.

Honestly, I don't believe he'd have a hard time winning. His hatred for government corruption would lead him to wreck half the departments of the Federal government. Far more so than even Trump/DOGE is doing. It'd be nice.


Lol well, yes. I would bet that nearly every American would vote for "Teddy Roosevelt" because of the respect his name carries historically. Take away the name and he's not electable.

To be fair, he wasn't electable in his day either until he became president by way of a presidential assassination.
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Feb 19 2025 07:40pm
Funny dom, all the KKK members and white supremacists seem to be firm republican voters, why is that?


LOL. There is no KKK anymore. Oh, sure. There's like 1600 people who call themselves "KKK". Nobody is aligned with them, and they endorsed Obama, Clinton, and Biden, all three.

The fact is, the days of the KKK being a democrat intimidation wing are not over, only the white robes and nooses are over. The current KKK the Democrats use to intimidate people into voting for them is Antifa and BLM. :)


Lol well, yes. I would bet that nearly every American would vote for "Teddy Roosevelt" because of the respect his name carries historically. Take away the name and he's not electable.

To be fair, he wasn't electable in his day either until he became president by way of a presidential assassination.


Maybe. I'd vote for him because he had solid policy. I wouldn't vote for FDR though. Fuck that guy.
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Feb 19 2025 07:42pm
He was masculine. Something that the left can't identify with anymore.


They're ideologically captured by lgbtq.
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Feb 19 2025 07:45pm
By the standards of today's Republican. In fact he's further left than the average Democrat too, speaking from a relative perspective (key word is relative). How has our country gone so far right? Make no mistake he is a traditional conservative and super imperialist as almost all but one US President has been.


got any specific examples?
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