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Feb 19 2025 11:20am
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A possible event is that a meteor hits the Earth in the next 365 days and wipes out all life.

Does that mean that everyone on the planet should immediately give up on law and order and live out their wildest fantasies because "we're all maybe gonna die anyway"?

There's a non-zero chance you will die from a heart attack in the next 60 seconds. Does that mean I should call 9/11 and have them dispatch paramedics to your home?

Again, the reality is that there was CONSTANT leaking in the first Trump Administration, and there is CONSTANT waste in the federal government. DOGE appears to be helping to limit both.

Saying "DOGE employees could leak all the information!" as a possibility is to ignore the fact that the department has existed since 2014 and done no such thing. Nor is there a single shred of evidence to point that they will.

Weird, huh?


Bob you really are stupid or cant read. No wonder so many users are suggesting you can't or don't read these days. Hence, the possibility based on recent events such as being unable to secure their own website.

I would suggest that if you intend to jump in on conversations that get you so upset you actually read or have a familiarization with recent events.

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Feb 19 2025 11:32am
Bob you really are stupid or cant read. No wonder so many users are suggesting you can't or don't read these days. Hence, the possibility based on recent events such as being unable to secure their own website.

I would suggest that if you intend to jump in on conversations that get you so upset you actually read or have a familiarization with recent events.


Where are the leaks? I point to real events that actually happened. I point to the fact that the people DOGE has been eliminating from federal service are among those leakers.

Reality. You respond by saying, "Well this other thing that hasn't happened, that we have no evidence ever will happen, COULD happen, therefore, we should worry about DOGE."

Remember when you buy your tin foil to insure it's Tin and not Aluminum, friend. :)
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Feb 19 2025 11:34am
Where are the leaks? I point to real events that actually happened. I point to the fact that the people DOGE has been eliminating from federal service are among those leakers.

Reality. You respond by saying, "Well this other thing that hasn't happened, that we have no evidence ever will happen, COULD happen, therefore, we should worry about DOGE."

Remember when you buy your tin foil to insure it's Tin and not Aluminum, friend. :)


Bob, see here you go again not reading. Who said leaks happened? The implication was that if they cant simply secure their own website its a very real possibility they could leak information.

You really are bad at reading and or comprehension.
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Feb 19 2025 11:40am
Bob, see here you go again not reading. Who said leaks happened? The implication was that if they cant simply secure their own website its a very real possibility they could leak information.

You really are bad at reading and or comprehension.


They created a quick and dirty webpage which was linking twitter posts to that website via JavaScript. Databases you analyze aren't online, you can't hack them unless you have someone with physical contact in the vicinity. Even if in that case of a unimportant website, I'd look at how long it took them to fix the "leak". The leak being, displaying their own message instead of those twitts => no data was stolen.

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They created a quick and dirty webpage which was linking twitter posts to that website via JavaScript. Databases you analyze aren't online, you can't hack them unless you have someone with physical contact in the vicinity.


I suspect we should not make excuses for those who are requesting to access our IRS data do you?
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I suspect we should not make excuses for those who are requesting to access our IRS data do you?

Analyzing offline? No problems. I'd care more about making sure, they shred everything they don't need after they are done.

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I suspect we should not make excuses for those who are requesting to access our IRS data do you?


Um... I don't trust the IRS with my information. The IRS has beggared and jailed far more people than any leaker has ever caused harm to.

Once again, IF somebody from DOGE (or anywhere else) decides to start leaking people's personal information? Then we'll stand shoulder to shoulder.

Until then, you just sound like Maddow.

For all of your random insults, you sound like a child. Hell, your insults themselves come across as childish.

You're better than this. We get that you don't like Trump, you don't like Elon, you don't like "Big Balls" and that's fine. We've noted your concern. Going on ad nauseum over scenarios that haven't happened, which we have no evidence will EVER happen is a useless waste of time.

Which is why I focus on all the leaks that DID happen in Trump's first Administration. Which you will NOT address, because the realities don't fit within your small-minded, childish narrative. :)
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Feb 19 2025 12:10pm
Um... I don't trust the IRS with my information. The IRS has beggared and jailed far more people than any leaker has ever caused harm to.

Once again, IF somebody from DOGE (or anywhere else) decides to start leaking people's personal information? Then we'll stand shoulder to shoulder.

Until then, you just sound like Maddow.

For all of your random insults, you sound like a child. Hell, your insults themselves come across as childish.

You're better than this. We get that you don't like Trump, you don't like Elon, you don't like "Big Balls" and that's fine. We've noted your concern. Going on ad nauseum over scenarios that haven't happened, which we have no evidence will EVER happen is a useless waste of time.

Which is why I focus on all the leaks that DID happen in Trump's first Administration. Which you will NOT address, because the realities don't fit within your small-minded, childish narrative. :)


If musk already has everything in one place it would be a bit late for IF it leaks.
Also sorry for disrespecting you furor



Shouldn't lock your door at night until someone comes in and robs you with that logic

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If musk already has everything in one place it would be a bit late for IF it leaks.
Also sorry for disrespecting you furor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHYl83OGWJY


Shouldn't lock your door at night until someone comes in and robs you with that logic


Musk already has more information about not merely the US public, but the global public, including classified information and more. He owns Twitter. Which government officials during both the Obama and Biden Administration were using to communicate classified information.

Trust me, Elon having access to data isn't a problem. He used to work for NASA, he's had top secret security clearance for years.

Locking your door has evidence-based reasoning behind it. There are tens of thousands of burglaries and home invasions every year. All the evidence points that your risk of suffering a burglary or home invasion goes down if you lock your doors. So, it's precautionary, to help resolve a real problem. On the flipside, a special department designed to reduce and remove waste, as well as access to your private information by people who don't need it, sounds like a decent idea. Fearing that the auditors will suddenly, and magically, start leaking your data themselves? No evidence, no precedent.

Funny that the first argument made against DOGE was that they would "alter data" and had nothing to do with them accessing it. Then when it turned out, they'd only receive Read Only access, suddenly it's about "OMG! My data!"

Thing is, there were nearly 90,000 full time employees of the IRS when Trump took office, and who knows how many additional part time employees. And the overwhelming majority of them could, should they decide to, access and/or leak your data.

Why are you worried about the people who are only receiving temporary, read-only access to your information, rather than those who have full access to your data and can leak or edit it at a whim?
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Feb 19 2025 01:07pm
Musk already has more information about not merely the US public, but the global public, including classified information and more. He owns Twitter. Which government officials during both the Obama and Biden Administration were using to communicate classified information.

Trust me, Elon having access to data isn't a problem. He used to work for NASA, he's had top secret security clearance for years.

Locking your door has evidence-based reasoning behind it. There are tens of thousands of burglaries and home invasions every year. All the evidence points that your risk of suffering a burglary or home invasion goes down if you lock your doors. So, it's precautionary, to help resolve a real problem. On the flipside, a special department designed to reduce and remove waste, as well as access to your private information by people who don't need it, sounds like a decent idea. Fearing that the auditors will suddenly, and magically, start leaking your data themselves? No evidence, no precedent.

Funny that the first argument made against DOGE was that they would "alter data" and had nothing to do with them accessing it. Then when it turned out, they'd only receive Read Only access, suddenly it's about "OMG! My data!"

Thing is, there were nearly 90,000 full time employees of the IRS when Trump took office, and who knows how many additional part time employees. And the overwhelming majority of them could, should they decide to, access and/or leak your data.

Why are you worried about the people who are only receiving temporary, read-only access to your information, rather than those who have full access to your data and can leak or edit it at a whim?


Because it's not just IRS data it's literally all data in all programs that will all be on one place,he doesn't need to alter data for data to be compromised. It's not MY data it's the country's data that if it gets accessed by the wrong people could cause a mountain of problems

What sort of security measures is Elon putting into place to protect that data, equivalent to locking your door at night. Inproperly stored data can be compromised. Having read only access can be compromised.

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