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Feb 17 2025 08:21pm
What are you even talking about? There used to be insane asylums. Where crazy people who would not get better would go to become permanent wards of the State. They were not prisons, nor were they part of prisons, though some prisons famously DID have psyche wards where horrific shit was done to patients.

What there is today is inpatient shit and padded cells in prisons, and there is no, "Your brain is broke, you're now property of the State."

This shit is covered extensively in K-12 education in the US. What are you getting at here? Here, give Wikipedia a shot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

I don't know if bringing back insane asylums is good or not. I'd rather simply reinstitute the death penalty, and those who're so mentally broken there's no hope of fixing them, AND have proven themselves a danger to society are simply executed.

You don't deal with a mad dog by giving them love and cuddles. You deal with a mad dog by killing the mad dog. It's the only way to insure the safety of your family and other animals.


I mean, within an asylum there would exist a solitary confinement ward for the most violent patients. When we're talking about the most unhinged violent insane murderers where rehabilitation is an immense task, euthanization (or lobotomies which they used to do) is the most merciful option. But there exists the masses of patients who are largely non-violent, just mildly violent.

Shutter Island portrays an old facility well
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Feb 17 2025 08:23pm
Once again you’re the one guilty of sophistry. You’re trying to draw some line between insane asylums and mental health facilities that detain patients who have not committed a crime against their will. That line doesn’t exist. The term ”asylum” has simply gone out of vogue, the facilities still exist.


I've repeatedly stated asylums and insulated communities, which is clearly obvious

/e your statement is also completely false. There obviously exists a line between an asylum and detainment, the facilities were decommissioned

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Feb 17 2025 08:29pm
I've repeatedly stated asylums and insulated communities, which is clearly obvious

/e your statement is also completely false. There obviously exists a line between an asylum and detainment, the facilities were decommissioned


The facilities where you could send your wife for shock therapy if she annoyed you or get your kid lobotomized if he was rude to you have been decommissioned, if that’s suddenly the point you were trying to make then I agree with you.

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Feb 17 2025 08:41pm
The facilities where you could send your wife for shock therapy if she annoyed you or get your kid lobotomized if he was rude to you have been decommissioned, if that’s suddenly the point you were trying to make then I agree with you.


You could have just said "mental health asylum bad" instead of engaging in this ridiculous sophistry pretending you didn't know what I meant

And since your position caused the problem, you can stay out of this discussion
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Feb 17 2025 08:45pm
Goomshill simply says

two extreme positions both proven wrong
shocking women for being uppity and having the vapors wasn't a good way to do things
letting violent schizos bounce back on the streets until they murder someone isn't a good way to do things
there's a sane middle ground to be had, and we don't have it
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Feb 17 2025 08:51pm
Goomshill simply says

two extreme positions both proven wrong
shocking women for being uppity and having the vapors wasn't a good way to do things
letting violent schizos bounce back on the streets until they murder someone isn't a good way to do things
there's a sane middle ground to be had, and we don't have it


That's all were saying in response to someone claiming the government has it under control, nothing to worry about, or see here.
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Feb 17 2025 09:01pm
You could have just said "mental health asylum bad" instead of engaging in this ridiculous sophistry pretending you didn't know what I meant

And since your position caused the problem, you can stay out of this discussion


My position is that facilities for long-term involuntary mental health treatment should exist and DO exist. It's also my position that it should not be especially easy to have your family members committed, though.
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Feb 17 2025 09:29pm
My position is that facilities for long-term involuntary mental health treatment should exist and DO exist. It's also my position that it should not be especially easy to have your family members committed, though.


What facilities for long ter involuntary mental health treatment DO exist in the US that are not private companies where the family is required to pay the bill?

Like, name them. Literally, name them.
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Feb 17 2025 09:33pm
What facilities for long ter involuntary mental health treatment DO exist in the US that are not private companies where the family is required to pay the bill?

Like, name them. Literally, name them.


Yeah wtf. They're all private institutions driven by corporate interest and greed. The federal government stopped funding many institutions way back when they were deemed an absolute atrocity and embarrassment.
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Feb 17 2025 11:17pm
Finally some real meaningful DEI
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