He's talking about facilities where crazy people can be sent to be wards of the state.
Unless Insurance is paying for the stay, or they are in custody of the corrections system they get discharged out onto the streets.

Its a state by state thing. In Minnesota for example its hard to get the 6 month maximum civil commitments longer than the 72 hour involuntary hold for psych ward wackos, except sex offenders where the state can basically imprison them for life without criminal sentencing under indefinite civil commitment.
Its the oddity that we don't extend that to people who plainly dangerous and going to murder someone if released, only those who already raped someone. Priorities.
And because of the truly nonstop level of catch and release 72 hour holds, hennepin courts get like 10 hearings on commitment orders. Per day. Per judge.

And it pops up every time theres another murder by a schizo. We had one last year, random guy stabbed to death at a bus stop by a crazy. Then it turns out the killer was a schizophrenic who had been civilly committed multiple times per year over the past few years;

That’s not true.

“In eight states that provided relevant data, the mean longer-term detention rate was 42% of a state's average emergency detention rate.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33138709/

Emergency detention is(generally, but it varies from state to state) 72 hours. A court hearing is needed to extend this into longer-term detention, which happens quite frequently. The state pays for it.

That's still what amounts to imprisonment, not asylum or proper treatment. In Canada it can be extended up to 6 months I believe, recertified by an independent doctor every month. That's still not what I'm talking about with asylums



That's right

You aren’t talking about involuntary mental health treatment? Then, again, you’re going to have to be more clear.

Just googled it, in Ontario at least, you can be held indefinitely, just has to be renewed every three months.

https://www.ontario.ca/files/2024-05/moh-information-guide-involuntary-patients-en-2024-05-21.pdf

More sophistry. No point in this crap

What are you even talking about? There used to be insane asylums. Where crazy people who would not get better would go to become permanent wards of the State. They were not prisons, nor were they part of prisons, though some prisons famously DID have psyche wards where horrific shit was done to patients.

What there is today is inpatient shit and padded cells in prisons, and there is no, "Your brain is broke, you're now property of the State."

This shit is covered extensively in K-12 education in the US. What are you getting at here? Here, give Wikipedia a shot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

I don't know if bringing back insane asylums is good or not. I'd rather simply reinstitute the death penalty, and those who're so mentally broken there's no hope of fixing them, AND have proven themselves a danger to society are simply executed.

You don't deal with a mad dog by giving them love and cuddles. You deal with a mad dog by killing the mad dog. It's the only way to insure the safety of your family and other animals.

Once again you’re the one guilty of sophistry. You’re trying to draw some line between insane asylums and mental health facilities that detain patients who have not committed a crime against their will. That line doesn’t exist. The term ”asylum” has simply gone out of vogue, the facilities still exist.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Feb 17 2025 08:18pm

This is some goofy goober reasoning that privatization has fixed the need for mentally ill people needing to be wards of the State.
Our prison system used to not be filled with mentally Ill people when asylums existed, and today our prison population is full of people with severe mental illness.