... we're not talking about dissidents here, we're talking about horribly ill people who need help, who have no other support system, who are an imminent danger to themselves and others.

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 17 2025 07:13pm

If it’s a healthcare issue then it has to be in the hands of every individual psychiatrist. They already have that power.

Mental asylums are run by licensed and trained psychiatrists and other doctors. What's your point here?

We don't have any mental asylums at the moment they'll need to be commissioned and built

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 17 2025 07:16pm

That mental health is not a political issue, and can’t be made into a political issue without inviting totalitarianism.

Of course it's a political issue. And we can absolutely talk about it without fearing some irrational spectre of totalitarianism.

Mental asylums have been the norm all throughout the history of society - societies look after their citizens. Their removal in the present day is a historical anomaly and it has had disastrous, cruel, and tragic consequences.

They still exist, the name has just changed. Do you really think that no one is involuntarily committed into mental health facilities in America or Canada? That’s a weird thing to believe. If that’s not what you’re saying then you’ll have to be more clear.

Actual asylums, which are enclosed communities where the patients lead calming lives where they're kept safe while doctors treat them as best they can, don't exist anymore. Similar institutions like drug addiction rehab asylums exist, but they're for drug detox and are generally private to my knowledge and cost a whole lot of money, like in Intervention.

Now, mental health facilities are a dismissive joke. They're not asylums at all, it's a doctor's office that follows the same model as the rest of the Big Pharma/Doctor complex. Prescribe some drugs and send them home. That's not treatment.

Sounds alot like David Pakman-esque lazy disrespectful sophistry

Well that’s just not true. There are involuntary mental health facilities, meaning they don’t “prescribe some drugs and send them home”, they forcefully prevent their patients from leaving.

After the 72 hour hold unless they are in the care of the state who's paying for it they are discharged.
That's all the court wants with that, is papers saying they are crazy.

You're referring to padded rooms & other jail cells, not asylums

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 17 2025 07:33pm