Years of a pressure and terror campaign, and they still only accomplished 250k voluntary emigrations, out of over 1.1m Jews living on the territory of the Greater German Reich (Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia):
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/map/european-jewish-population-distribution-ca-1933

And the nazis quickly realized that the lebensraum they intended to conquer in Eastern Europe was chock-full with Jews too, so that their conquests would add new Jews to their empire more quickly than they could conceivable expel them. The rest is shameful history.







A people which is actually being genocided doesn't see its population quadruple like the Palestinians did over the past four decades. Even Gaza itself has a larger population today than it had in October 2023!

For reference: the state of Palestine had a natural population change (live births minus natural deaths) of +127k in 2022. Gaza makes up 40% of Palestine's population, but has slightly higher birth rates, so they should make up around 45% of the natural change, which would put it at roughly +57k in 2022. According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health (which is under direct Hamas control in Gaza and surely not undercounting), the Gaza War has caused around 46k casualties on the Palestinian side, over a span of 15 months. Contrasted with a natural population growth of around 57k per 12 months, it seems safe to say that there are more people living in Gaza today than when this "genocide" began.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine#Registered_births_and_deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 7 2025 06:55pm

I don't see as much personal value in the quantity of people, but rather the quality of their existence.

Absolutely. Just to make this perfectly clear: I'm not pushing back against the notion that the fate of the Palestinians is awful and an injustice, I'm just pushing back against the loaded term "genocide" which simply isn't adequate here and deliberately chosen for propaganda purposes.

then what happened in Rwanda wasnt a genocide either?

https://www.un.org/en/preventgenocide/rwanda/historical-background.shtml

and the bosnian genocide? and Khmer Rouge ??


what qualifies as a 'genocide' in your world? a complete destruction? the intent to destroy?

If you decimate a population such that they lose their ability to have contiguous relationship with land and culture, then it results in largely the same outcome--the specific word isn't all that important to me.

I am coping just fine I know its complete bs and as I said before we managed before the US help and we will manage after, infact after this war we know we can only rely on ourselves.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Feb 8 2025 03:39am

You managed it before and you will manage it after. Are you managing it now? This is the question. Unfortunately you are only a subject of US foreign policy even in local matters. Any plans on independence?
It’s wonderful that Trump has spared you from the Nazi role in the upcoming mass deportations (by the way, that’s a crime against humanity—just in case the ICC has any legitimacy and decides to hang the local circumcised Hitler). But you could have done it yourselves, you’re not kids, and it’s not your first time.

This post was edited by Norlander on Feb 8 2025 04:11am

your argument is not sound.

The ability of a group to recover over time does not erase the fact that mass killings and forced displacement were committed with the intent to destroy that group. Genocide is measured by the deliberate act of destruction, not by future birth rates.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 8 2025 04:32am

/e

I see you’re quietly stepping onto the path of nationalism—a slow burn, but better late than never (or in this case, better laid than with no one). Someone will have to take the first step; the Germans did it in their time. We still call them fascists to this day. Some even pity them, like they pity people with intellectual disabilities—after all, they didn’t choose to be born that way.

This post was edited by Norlander on Feb 8 2025 04:24am

Hamas won why are you frustrated?